Friday, May 29, 2026

65F Goitre 20 years Telangana PaJR

 
29-05-2026

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS


[3:14 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 1: Slowly progressive goitre @PPM3 @PPM4  do you remember how many months or years?
Attached imaging and pathology
[3:15 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 4: Yes sir
[3:15 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 4: Since 20 years sir
[3:15 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 4: Colloid cyst sir
[3:15 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 1: Also has a left caries tooth with left temporal referred pain
Also agreeable to an excision biopsy of the thyroid
[3:16 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 4: Planned for ultrasound Guided aspiration sir
[3:21 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 1: Therapeutic aspiration?
An excision biopsy would be more cosmetically as well as histopathologically satisfying?
[3:22 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 1: @PPM4 @PPM3 what's the thyroid function tests results in this patient although she's clinically euthyroid
[3:22 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 4: Ok sir, Will have a word with Patho mam sir
[3:25 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 1: ๐Ÿ‘†@PPM4 recall her TFTs? I'm assuming they are normal
[3:27 PM, 5/29/2026] PPM 4: Normal thyroid function sir
[3.39 pm, 29/05/2026] PPM 1: Any reports image available?
[12:49 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 2: Agree that a subtotal or total thyroidectomy may do the job here.
[12:50 AM, 5/30/2026] Aditya: @PaJR Health is Iodine deficiency an issue in Sangareddy and surrounding areas? How does an Iodine deficiency goitre look like on US and Histopathology
[12:57 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 4: No sir
[12:58 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 4: Referred to Surgery sir, will let you know as once we get their opinion !!!
[12:59 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 2: Cheers mate. Thanks.
[2.25 PM, 5/30/2026] PPM 1: Here's the discussion we had around this patient in the institute group yesterday in parallel to the discussion in this patient's PaJR group:
[29/05, 15:27] hu1: How is T3, T4, TSH?
[29/05, 15:29]hu1: TPO Antibody?
[29/05, 15:32]hu2: I'm assuming it's normal although the patient just left
Because it's clinically more of a simple colloid goitre the pre test probability for TPO coming positive was low and hence not tested
[29/05, 15:32]hu3: Diffuse hyperplastic goitre smooth surface with regular margins involving the entire gland endemic (iodine def) goitre?
[29/05, 15:32]hu2: Thanks
Yes but the moot question here is:
Sub himalayan goitre belt are well known with most colloid goitre attributed to iodine deficiency but what's the reason for many other colloid goitres in other parts of India other than sub Himalayan region?
[29/05, 15:35]hu2: One of the studies undertaken from an institution of national importance to answer this question found:
"There was a high prevalence of goitre despite iodine repletion and low thyroid autoimmunity.
[29/05, 15:37]hu2: ๐Ÿ‘†So while Dr Ramalingaswami's discovery is a great landmark, current research leaves us with more questions around colloid goitre than what can be explained by iodine deficiency alone.
[3:17 PM, 5/30/2026] PPM 2: @PaJR Health now that yesterday's backend error is solved, can you answer this
[3:19 PM, 5/30/2026] PaJR Health: 65F, 20-year progressive thyroid swelling — Clinical photograph, Ultrasound, and Histopathology (FNAC) of a long-standing colloid goitre from Sangareddy, Telangana
[3:19 PM, 5/30/2026] PaJR Health: Alright, the backend is back online. Here's the answer to both questions.
*IODINE DEFICIENCY IN SANGAREDDY: YES, BUT IT'S COMPLICATED*
There's a published clinical study from Maheshwara Medical College, Patancheru (Sangareddy district) that explicitly identifies iodine deficiency as a major contributor to thyroid disorders in the area — 46 out of 57 thyroid patients studied had hypothyroidism, with poverty, poor sanitation, and lack of access to iodized salt cited as key factors.
But the picture is more nuanced. The very discussion you flagged yesterday (the blog post on UDLCO CRH) highlights that in Telangana — despite being a non-Himalayan, ostensibly iodine-replete zone — many people still use *"doddu uppu"* (local uniodized rock salt). So there are pockets of functional iodine deficiency driven by dietary practice, not soil geography.
At the same time, the Chandigarh PGIMER study (Das et al., 2011, PMID: 21321427) found a *15.1% goitre prevalence in iodine-sufficient children, with iron deficiency — not iodine deficiency — emerging as the strongest correlate (OR 2.8 for ferritin <12 ยตg/L). Thyroid autoimmunity was present in only 4.9% of goitrous kids. The takeaway: **iodine deficiency may initiate the problem, but it is not the sole driver* — concurrent iron deficiency, dietary goitrogens (cabbage, cruciferous vegetables), and possibly genetic polymorphisms all contribute.
*HOW IODINE DEFICIENCY GOITRE LOOKS ON ULTRASOUND*
๐Ÿ”น *Diffuse, symmetric enlargement* of both thyroid lobes with smooth, regular margins
๐Ÿ”น *Hypoechoic parenchyma* — the gland appears darker than normal due to follicular hyperplasia
๐Ÿ”น *Absence of discrete nodules* in early/simple colloid goitre
๐Ÿ”น *Comet-tail artifacts* on grey-scale — echogenic foci with posterior reverberation, representing inspissated colloid within distended follicles
๐Ÿ”น In long-standing cases: may evolve into *multinodular* appearance with mixed echogenicity, cystic degeneration, and calcifications
๐Ÿ”น Doppler: typically *normal or mildly increased vascularity* (in contrast to the "thyroid inferno" of Graves')
*HOW IT LOOKS ON HISTOPATHOLOGY (FNAC/BIOPSY)*
๐Ÿ”น *Markedly distended follicles* — the hallmark. Follicles are enlarged, packed with abundant, homogeneous, eosinophilic colloid (PAS-positive)
๐Ÿ”น *Flattened follicular epithelium* — the lining cells are attenuated (squashed) due to pressure from accumulated colloid; they go from cuboidal → flattened
๐Ÿ”น *Macrofollicular pattern* — follicles coalesce into large cystic spaces
๐Ÿ”น *Scant, bland follicular cells* on FNAC — abundant thick colloid with few clusters of benign, uniform thyrocytes
๐Ÿ”น *No significant inflammatory infiltrate* — distinguishes it from Hashimoto's (which shows lymphocytic infiltration, Hurthle cells)
๐Ÿ”น With chronicity: *nodular hyperplasia* develops, with areas of haemorrhage, fibrosis, and calcification
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๐Ÿ“‹ The image I sent earlier from your institute's discussion shows the actual ultrasound and FNAC slides from the *65F patient with 20-year goitre from Sangareddy* — classic colloid goitre with the macrofollicular pattern on cytology.
๐Ÿ“‹ *Key references:*
[Das S, Bhansali A, et al. Persistence of goitre in the post-iodization phase: micronutrient deficiency or thyroid autoimmunity? Indian J Med Res. 2011;133:103.](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3100137/) — PMID: 21321427
[Kumar EAA, et al. Spectrum of thyroid disorders in tertiary care hospital at Patancheru, Sangareddy, Telangana. IAIM. 2023;10(5):8-20.](https://www.iaimjournal.com/storage/2023/05/iaim_2023_1005_02.pdf)
๐Ÿ’ก *CLINICAL NOTE:* The Sangareddy data and the Chandigarh study together point to a dual-driver model: iodine deficiency (from uniodized salt use) plus iron deficiency (from malnutrition). When you see a euthyroid colloid goitre in this region, checking serum ferritin alongside urinary iodine may be more informative than either alone.
[3:33 PM, 5/30/2026] PPM 2:  Extraordinary discussion and this is a real MDT @PPM5 which I'm 99% sure the local PGs will not see value and will ignore until they go to their Americas and UKs and then feel a longing towards this! (look who's projecting!)
[3.37 PM, 30/05/2026] PPM 2: @191396711501945 our bot is now so immersive and with it, that it has gone and reviewed the discussion in the link and nicely summarised those links in the paper you shared and attempted to even share the US images (but failed)
Our boy is growing up fast PPM5

76M Urinary dribbling thin stream 1 yr pain and hematuria Type 2 Diabetes 1 mth CKD 1mth Uttar Pradesh PaJR

 
29-05-2026

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED PROBLEMS  AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.


[9.44 am, 29/05/2026] PPM 1: First history from OPD
Gen medicine history from IP day 1
  
                                                                                                          General surgery handwritten history
                                                                Progress notes
                                      
Vitals intake output and food plates. Have planned for his four point sugar profile
                               
                                                                   Investigations
                                         
  
                                        
[12.59 pm, 29/05/2026] PPM 1: Finally we also managed to capture the image of his obstructive kidneys but looking at the obstruction perhaps his azotemia may not be explained by post renal obstructive uropathy alone rather there's some renal component too which makes this case more challenging.
[12:43 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 2: Please if possible mention the type of diabetes in the title, as this becomes the case title and the bot can filter out types correctly in later searches. Will mark it as 2 for now.
[10:26 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 1: There could be some uncertainty about the type going by the patient's phenotype!

[11:37 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 1: He's progressing toward bicytopenia even as his creatinine is slowly reducing daily
Do we have his iron profile parameters? From what I vaguely recall from yesterday's notes, iron profile was normal? Is it unexplained anemia that needs a bone marrow? Let's discuss this with pathology team at least in that group. Please add all the willing pathologists and radiologists to that mmch group
[11:39 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 3: Ok sir.        On 21/5/26 report sir

                                                                         21/05/2026
[11:53 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 1: Ask the patho team how specific is their retic count
Ferritin would have been more useful than what we currently have?
24 hour Urinary protein creatinine and electrolytes are needed if we want to check for glomerular injury as well as renal sodium retention
[11:53 AM, 5/30/2026] PPM 3: Ok sir














34F Hypothyroid 1 month Telangana PaJR

 THISIS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[9:57 AM, 5/28/2026] PPM 1: Because of a spike in PaJR onboarding, the local doctors in the PaJR platform appear to be finding it difficult to keep track of who these patients are! 
Real patient anonymity finally? @PPM2 @PPM3 @PPM4 
One solution to this is to gather all the data in the OPD before we get them to sign consent but again in a busy OPD this may not be feasible for the local doctors unless we have an assistant specifically dedicated to this task. We have tried that earlier by training a human pool geared toward task shifting but that has it's own limitations although again the current stance is likely to be a judicious mixture of both!
@PPM5 @PPM6 do you recall this patient from OPD? Can we get some more telephonic history of the initial events and subsequent course from her here @CR?
[12:15 PM, 5/28/2026] CR: The patient was having indigestion, weakness, leg cramps (pulling down) and is feeling as if her heart is going downwards (don't know the medical term). All these symptoms are there since 1 month. She is feeling her pulse fluctuations also.
She is a homemaker with twin boys and a girl. She has regular and normal monthly periods.
After consultation at our hospital she was prescribed 88mcg Thyronorm since 1 week. Asked them to share the reports. This little info gathered from her husband.
[12:18 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 1: Very well taken history ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Was she absolutely alright one month back?
What was her daily hourly routine then?
What happened to her daily hourly routine after she developed her symptoms since one month
[12:20 PM, 5/28/2026] CR: Will let you know soon as he is on duty and mobile with him.
[6:34 PM, 5/28/2026] CR: The patient was normal before and started feeling weak and restless. Has problem of cramps in her legs. 
Earlier she was able to do her daily chores well, but now she is feeling lethargic and not feeling to do, but somehow managing.
Asked her to share her daily activities and food plates regularly.


[7:32 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 1: @PPM6 @PPM5 do you recognise the handwriting here?
@CR please check if that bar code scan shows any hospital identifiers. Also can the patient elaborate on the history of her shortness of breath as mentioned in the handwritten note?
[7:35 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 1: ๐Ÿ‘†@PPM2 this is getting to be a very commonly ordered test? Does it really help in addition to change any management once in the presence of actionable TFTs?
[7:39 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 1: Can they also share her lateral view of arms and abdomen?
[7:45 PM, 5/28/2026] CR: At present there is no shortness of breath. She is fine. Main problems are cramps and weakness. Asked them to share her lateral view of arms and abdomen.
[8:19 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 2: Unlikely to be of any use. Although does help with Hashimoto and rule out a Viral thyroiditis / post partum (can occur upto 1 year later) thyroiditis if so.
[8:22 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 5: This was written by me sir but I don’t remember the exact history of the patient
[9:59 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 4: If the patient is on thyroxine but still has cramps + weakness, possibilities include:
     · Under-replaced hypothyroidism (persistent myopathy)
     · Over-replaced / iatrogenic hyperthyroidism (thyrotoxic periodic paralysis or thyrotoxic myopathy)
     · Poor adherence or malabsorption
[10:00 PM, 5/28/2026] PPM 4: One more possibility: spurious or counterfeit thyroxine

Wednesday, May 27, 2026

50M Hypertension with Target organ changes Telangana PaJR

 
27-05-2026

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[4:43 pm, 27/05/2026] PPM 1: @PPM3
Share the target organ changes noticed in this patient
[4:54 pm, 27/05/2026] PPM 3: Kidney- reduced Gfr 
Heart- pedal edema (indicates rt heart failure)
Para sternal heave (rt ventricular enlargement) 
Ecg changes- left axis deviation 
Saemens sign (indicates left ventricular hypertrophy) sir

35M Hypothyroid yrs left shoulder pain recent Repetitive Stress Injury Telangana PaJR

 
26-05-2026

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[8:39 pm, 26/05/2026] PPM 1: @PPM3 do you recall his morning history of hypothyroidism how he was started on 150 mcg some years ago for a TSH of 300 and then didn't check his TFTs for a year and later someone found his TSH to be 36 and brought down his dose to 75 mcg and today his TSH was 9 @PPM4?
[8:58 pm, 26/05/2026] PPM 3: Yes sir
[8:59 pm, 26/05/2026] PPM 3: Today TSH was 9
[9:09 pm, 26/05/2026] PPM 1: On examination for his chest and arm pain it appeared to be a rotator cuff injury with extreme tenderness during internal and external rotation.
Need to check physiotherapy support videos for the above
[9:25 pm, 26/05/2026] PPM 3: Ok sir

14F Pubertal adenomatous goitre Telangana PaJR

 
27/05/2026

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER GUARDIAN'S SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[2.51 pm, 27/05/2026] PPM 1: Cosmetic goitre
@PPM3 do you remember since when?
Free T3 raised
Others normal
Anti TPO and TSH receptor antibodies negative
Usg, fnac attached
                               
[2:55 pm, 27/05/2026] PPM 2: Free T3 is classically raised in Thyroid Nodules which isn't Graves