A 61 Yr old man suffering from severe wt loss.
25-07-2022
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Patient History
The patient is a 61yr old male retired school teacher. In 1972 at the age of 11 the patient was diagnosed with internal hemorrhoids where his father was also a patient of hemorrhoids. The patient had no complaint of any pain or bleeding before he was diagnosed. Recommended SX. Hemorrhoid banding tech.used.
When he was in class9-10, he experienced digestive problems like acidity, abdominal pain and loose stools. Due to unavailability of water purifiers they had to boil water for drinking as the water was rich in iron. The patient feels this as one of the reason for his problems.
In 1977 after completion of his primary education, the patient joined a high school 15kms away from home. He travelled 3km by cycle and 12km by bus to school. Traveling late in the night from school to home and getting drenched in the rainy season he would become sick with cold and cough.
He practised Yoga for 2yrs and got relief from breathing problems and SOB.
In 1979 the patients father made a homemade water filter which helped in resolving his digestive problems to some extent. In 1986 the patient went to Yoga center in Assam and was taught some techniques of cleansing his stomach by taking lemon water on empty stomach and insert a pipe into his stomach and vomit out all the content of his stomach by contracting abdominal muscles. He felt relief and continued this process for some time once in a week. The other process he followed was cleansing his nasal passage by inserting a pipe in the nose and taking out through his mouth.
In 1996 due to hectic schedule, he lost 5kg weight within a year and felt very weak. He was diagnosed with Tachycardia and was prescribed Inderal 10. His weight gain was better by 10kg
(47-57) in 2 yrs.
In 2005 the patient broke his right hand scaphoid bone while playing volleyball at school. He had bandage for 56 days, and went to work. One day while trying to catch a moving bus, he got his lower back sprained. Later with the pain he felt a tingling sensation in his right leg. He continued medicines prescribed by a neurologist for one and half year. Inspite of recovering from the pain he was asked to continue the medicines. On the advice of another physician he was asked to stop the medicines immediately, but again consulted a pharmacist and was prescribed Inderal tablet in a sequence of 10mg-5mg-2.5mg and then stop accordingly.
In 2010 he was diagnosed with glaucoma in the right eye. In 2011 he was prescribed eye drops Dorzox T and Lumigan 0.01 and was advised to check eye pressure once in 4 months. In 2012 he was detected with HTN , and Amlodac was prescribed. The same year he noticed blood with hard stools, 3 times in 6 months due to hemorrhoids and was advised an ointment to control bleeding.
In 2016 he lost weight from 59 to 55 kg and was diagnosed with hypothyroidism with TFT, TSH IvI.12.5/U/L. Later he got the tests done again and found TFT, TSH,IvI. 6m/U/L, Hb IvI- 6g/dL. For abdominal pain vomiting, for consultation of wt.loss and low Hb.IvI. colonoscopy was done to rule out internal bleeding. He was detected with anemia and was on Feronia XT. His PPBS was found to be 160 and was given iron infusion and FeroniaXT. His HbIvI rose to 10g/dL and abdominal pain and vomiting reduced significantly.
In 2017 his TSH IvI.14m IUL , was prescribed Thyrox 37.5. Now TSH is 3.3mgU/L.
In 2019 he was diagnosed with IBS and was advised no milk at all.
In 2020 his abdominal pain intensity increased and vomited 2-3 times in a month. Was intolerant to spicy foods.
In 2022 he joined an online Yoga and was advised some protein powder and some Yoga techniques. After 15 days his weight reduced from 55- 52kg. In 2 months he came down to 49kg and Hb 8.4g/dL. Discontinued Yoga. He is a teetotaller and does not smoke, sometimes pain and nutmeg.
CURRENT CHIEF PROBLEMS AND
PATIENT'S REQUIREMENTS:
The patient with episodes of abdominal pain and vomiting throughout the day, twice a month, was intolerant to spicy food.
23-07-2022
Even with veg home made food, he experienced vomiting. The patient is not putting on weight more than 49kg. Earlier when he was diagnosed with IBS, he tried Ayurvedic herbal tonic for digestion on his own, after which his hunger improved.
26-01-2023
From 2000 - 2013 , the above problem occurred yearly thrice or more.
FAMILY HISTORY
Father used to suffer from indigestion .
Mother was healthy, Brother has HTN and maternal grandfather had DM. Sister aged 56 had HTN, Hypothyroidism and ten years ago had gallstone SX.
PATIENT'S DIET PLAN
8am- Breakfast , Curd, flattened rice,
1 banana, 1 date.
9-10.30am- Dry fruits (raisin,cashew,
almond mixed.
11am- 1st meal- 1scoop rice, 1 boiled egg
and dal.
2 pm - Lunch- 3 scoops rice, fish, dal and
mixed vegetable.
6-7.30pm - Sugarless black tea,
Sometimes dry fruits.
9-9.30pm- Dinner- 2 scoops rice, fish, dal
Mixed vegetable.
28-06-2022
UPDATED FROM PATIENT'S DIARY
6.30AM- Wake up and get fresh. Has
Thyrox 37.5 with lukewarm
Water.
7 am- Walking for 35 min.
7.45am- Breakfast- Banana, sattu
Dates.
8.30am- Dry fruits (almond, cashew,
pista). On computer
10.30am- 2 pieces roti, curd, boiled egg
with vegetables.
Quality time with grandson.
12.30pm- Fruits(tangerine)
1 pm. - Shower
2 pm - Lunch- rice, dal, sabzi, paneer
and curd.
2.30pm- Nap, newspaper and quality
time with grandson.
5.30pm- Dry fruits (almond, cashew,
walnut)
7.30pm- Sugarless black tea and
puffed rice with a bit of oil
and chilly. After that attended
a few calls, internet surfing
and studies.
10 pm- Dinner- Rice, sabzi and egg curry
11.15pm- Sleep time.
WEIGHT LOSS TREND
1995 - 47 Kg
1998. - 52 kg
2000 - 55kg
2008 - 63kg
2009 - 61kg
2010 - 59kg
2011 - 56kg
2012 - 57kg
2015 - 56kg
2016 - 55kg
2017 - 56kg
2018- 57kg
2019- 55kg
2020- 56kg
2021 - 55kg
2022- 55kg (Jan 28)
2022- 49kg (March 15)
2022- 48kg (April)
2022- 48kg (May)
2022- 48kg (June)
2022- 48kg (July)
2022- 49kg (August)
BLOOD PRESSURE
6.10 am. 120/77. Pulse 77.
8.40 am. 116/84. Pulse 82
10.30am 123/79. Pulse 84
11.45am 126/76. Pulse 79
1.10pm. 109/66. Pulse 74
3.10am. 122/79. Pulse 86
4.30am 113/75. Pulse 74
5.55am. 119/82. Pulse 77
7.30pm. 124/81. Pulse 80
8.50pm. 129/84. Pulse 78
CDSS ( Conservationnal Decision Support System)
26-01-2022
PA- 8.38am The patient noticed blood in the closet last night. Today morning also he could notice on the hard closet. The insurgency was mild long ago. But for the last ten years there has been no blood.
PPM 1- 8.41am Good morning. I am inquiring about the outcome of your blood transfusion procedure following the severe injury (which I thought was unnecessary) could you please provide the following information
How many units of blood were transfused after the operation.
What was your last hemoglobin level?
How many units did it decrease by?
When did it decrease?
Has your blood pressure become normal?
PA- 8.50 am- Blood fell 3 times a year until ten years ago(2013). The first blood fell probably after 2000. Hemoglobin was first reduced in 2016.
PPM - 8.55am- Hemoglobin koto bar ta komechilo?
PA- 9.09am- 12 + lived. Stand at 6 in 2016. It was 10+ after the iron injection.
Although I did not see blood falling then.
PPM - 9.10am- 2016 Chara are kobe kobe komechilo?
PA- 9.12am- No more, contains 11+
Do you take any medicine to stop bleeding
PPM- 9.39am- Abar rokto parle botha owner bonhomie hoyeche ki hoini.
PA 9.40am - There is.
19-09-2024
PA- Medication for the period Nov 2023 to Feb 2024
1. Steroid thrice daily for one month. Twice daily for second month and once daily for third month.
2. Ezoran 25
3. Thyrox 25
4. Pantasa 1g.
Medication for the period March 2024 to May 2024
1. Thyrox 25
2. Ezoran 50
3. Pantasa ( 1g/ day)
4. FeroniaXT
5. Folvite 5
Medication for June 2024- August 2024
1. Thyrox 25
2. Ezoran 75
3. FeroniaXT
4. Folvite 5
Medication for present week
1. Thyrox 25
2. Ezoran 75
3. Folvite 5
4. Colospa X( for 10 days twice daily,
SOS)
5. Peptamen food supplement.
Above are the medication from the patient's present Doctor. Since Jan2023 to October 2023 the patient's previous Doctor tried with Pantasa 2 g and Ezoran without steroid. As a result the patient's CBC result worsened. So skipping this Medication the patient took second opinion from Manipal hospital who is presently supervising him.
PA- Patient's daily routine updated
6. am Wake up. No morning walk as he was underweight. Light physical exercises and walk short distance for daily needs.
6.30am- Breakfast, Idly, dosa, banana and sour curd. Sometimes puffed rice.
7.30am- Going to market for an hour.
Being a creative writer spends time in writing and literary studies.
10 am- Papaya or watermelon. He was advised strict low fiber diet.
12 pm- Bath
1 pm- Lunch rice, low fibre vegetables, dal
Fish and chicken once or twice in a month.
Evening- Light snacks.
Dinner- Rice with vegetables and dal.
10 pm- Go to bed.
PA- Physically the patient is fine , but for a mild pain in the naval area, mostly on empty stomach. Finds relief after taking food.
PPM- The patient appears to be doing well. Eventually I guess the PA will incorporate all these into his case report so that the doctor team would come to know.
PA- The patient has to follow only low fibre diet, daily the same. Hence did not share the pics of food plates.
Crohn's Disease Activity Index. (CDAI)
Instructions- Signs, symptoms and history should be based on the past 7 days. Note for abdominal pain and general wellbeing ratings this calculator uses an average rating per day over the past 7 days. For stools use the total number of soft liquid stools over the past 7 days.
[28-05-2025 19.22] PPM 1: Update:
[28/05, 17:29] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: স্যার 2.5kg wt. বেড়েছে।
[28/05, 17:40] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years:
পেট ব্যথা কখনও খুব সামান্য হয়। গত দেড় বছরে আর কোনদিন বমি হয়নি।
Azoran 75
Thyrox 25
Feronia XT
খাচ্ছি। মাঝে মাস তিনেক আয়রন ট্যাবলেট বন্ধ রেখে HB 9 হয়েছিল। আবার দেড় মাস খেয়ে এখন 10.6
[27-08-2025 10:04] PPM 1: Update:
[26/08, 21:08] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years:
2022 এপ্রিলের পর থেকে কোনো প্রকার Amlodac 5 আর খাইনি।
[26/08, 21:15] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: আজ Blood test report এ হিমোগ্লোবিন 12.8
গত দশ বছরে ক্রঞ্জ রোগ ধরা পড়ার পর এতটা বেশি কখনো আসেনি।
বডি ওয়েট 44কিলো থেকে 47.5কিলো। ডাক্তারবাবু বললেন Amlodac 5 যা আগে খেতাম, সেটা আবার শুরু করতে হবে।
[26/08, 21:20] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: শরীরটা সকাল বেলা একটু আনইজি মনে হচ্ছিল বলে মেপে বেশি পেলাম।
151/99, থেকে ক্রমশ বাড়তে থাকে। হাসপাতাল এমারজেন্সি 210/111 পেয়ে ভর্তি করিয়ে নেয়।
এখন 130/80 ডাক্তারবাবু বিপি ওষুধ খেয়ে যেতেন বলেছেন।
[26/08, 21:21] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: সেই সঙ্গে একটি ইকো করিয়ে নিতে বলেছেন।
[26/08, 21:23]cm: Sopathe ekbar 10 ta reading niye janate parle bhalo hoi
[26/08, 21:23] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: আগামী কাল দেব
[26/08, 21:26]cm: Ekhane jemon👇
[27/08, 09:25] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: আজ সারাদিন বিপি রিডিং নিচ্ছি। স্যার, ইসিজি-তে ইসসেমিক দেখাচ্ছে। এর জন্য কোনো কি কোনো কার্ডিওলজিস্ট দেখাতে হবে
[27/08, 09:55]cm: Na it's part of Right bundle branch block
[27/08, 09:55] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: আচ্ছা
[27-08-2025 10:10] PPM 3: RBBB -rsr pattern
Lvh
[27-08-2025 10:11] PPM 1: [26/08, 21:22]cm: 👆Aer aager kono ECG aache compare kore dekhar jonnye?
[26/08, 21:23]cm: Sopathe ekbar 10 ta reading niye janate parle bhalo hoi
[26/08, 21:23] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: আগামী কাল দেব
[26/08, 21:25] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: Right bundle blockage 1995 নাগাদ পাওয়া গেছিল। সেটা আজও রিপোর্টে পাওয়া গেছে।
[26/08, 21:26] PPM 1: Hain ota bhoyer kichu noi
[26/08, 21:36] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: 2021সালে ব্যাঙালোরে করা হয়েছিল। দেখতে হবে কোথায় আছে সেটা
[26/08, 21:37]cm: 1995 aeo aeki chilo mone hocche
[26/08, 21:37] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: হ্যাঁ
[27-08-2025 10:11] PPM 3: The s waves are they part of rbbb?
[27-08-2025 10:14] 63MPA: মাপ করবেন, এখানে আমার কী করণীয় তা বোধগম্য হচ্ছে না !
[27-08-2025 10:15] PPM 1: Yes that's the only way I imagined you would have diagnosed this RBBB because I had cropped out the rsr from V1
[27-08-2025 10:18] PPM 3: V2 also has the rsr sir
[27-08-2025 10:24] PPM 1: I'll try to provide a common answer for this directed at all team members here facing a PaJR group existential crisis!
This particular patient advocate @PA is an advocate for a 63M patient who suffered from chronic abdominal pain and finally was diagnosed to have Crohn's and was treated and recovered and is on maintenance immunosuppressives for the same. @CR his crohn's biopsy images and management data is not available in his PaJR case report?
It appears that he too may have had a break in his antihypertensives in 2022 due to regular PaJR follow ups showing normal BP recordings but then I guess he discontinued weekly follow up of his BP recordings for last two years and then suddenly yesterday was found to have a BP of 201/111!!
Now we have added in this group two other patient advocates @63MPA @44FPA who's patients have also stopped their antihypertensives on PaJR follow up to understand that this sudden turn of events in their BP is a possibility and they need to continue their weekly follow up. @PPM6@PPM7 @PPM8
[27-08-2025 11:43] PA: No, sir I use to follow up BP recording atleast once in a week. This sudden uprising is not the first time, there were two incidents that previously recorded. But unlike the yesterday's incident these were managed by taking amlodac 5 only once& BP came back normal.
Since 2022 April my wt. was Drastically fallen down due to undiagnosed Crohn's disease. My all parameters of blood test like cholesterol, and others came down to normal. In 2023 by double balloon colonoscopy IBD sample are collected from small intestine, then that was sent to Vellore Medical college lab where my chronz disease is confirmed.
Being an IBD chronz patient my mission was to deal with the incurable disease and anyhow to increase my body wt. Chronz disease treatment started on and from the end of 2023. Once started medication I got gradually relieved from most of my IDB related discomfort. Not only that my body wt is increased from 44kg to 47.5kg. Unfortunately in the mean time Bad cholesterol level is helping to recall hypertension. And eventually my hypertension is uprising to get back his position into the body after an intermittent gap. In fact an aged person perhaps can choose the options of diseases with which the rest of the old age span will pass. There is no way to get escape from. Only my friend a patient advocate is exceptional. He may be dubbed as an icon of old man.
[27-08-2025 11:56] PPM 1: The Crohn's disease in your patient may not be related to your patient's hypertension. Hypertension is due to vascular stiffness that can happen with long term adipocyte mediated endothelial inflammation characteristic of metabolic syn seen in @63MPA's patient and the vascular damage can flare up with smoking and alcohol.
In your patient's case we are not sure of what was his weekly BP since the last three years that he was not following up as he was busy dealing with the Crohn's disease that he could tackle successfully. A sudden isolated BP rise to 201/111 is difficult to interpret as we are told that he received just one single dose of amlodipine following which his subsequent readings came normal. So it's difficult to currently explain yesterday's isolated event unless we have more information surrounding that event. Sudden transient high BP can happen when cerebral autoregulation induces high systemic BP to improve cerebral perfusion during impending stroke.
[27-08-2025 11:59] PPM 1: @Meta AI @PPM5 please do a thematic analysis of the content below and share your evidence based suggestions with perplexity styled references:
[27/08, 10:24]cm: I'll try to provide a common answer for this directed at all team members here facing a PaJR group existential crisis!
This particular patient advocate @PA is an advocate for a 63M patient who suffered from chronic abdominal pain and finally was diagnosed to have Crohn's and was treated and recovered and is on maintenance immunosuppressives for the same. @CR his crohn's biopsy images and management data is not available in his PaJR case report?
It appears that he too may have had a break in his antihypertensives in 2022 due to regular PaJR follow ups showing normal BP recordings but then I guess he discontinued weekly follow up of his BP recordings for last two years and then suddenly yesterday was found to have a BP of 201/111!!
Now we have added in this group two other patient advocates @63MPA@44FPA who's patients have also stopped their antihypertensives on PaJR follow up to understand that this sudden turn of events in their BP is a possibility and they need to continue their weekly follow up. @PPM6 @PPM7 @PPM8
[27/08, 11:43] Patient Advocate 61M Weight Loss Crohn's 5 Years: No, sir I use to follow up BP recording atleast once in a week. This sudden uprising is not the first time, there were two incidents that previously recorded. But unlike the yesterday's incident these were managed by taking amlodac 5 only once& BP came back normal.
Since 2022 April my wt. was Drastically fallen down due to undiagnosed Crohn's disease. My all parameters of blood test like cholesterol, and others came down to normal. In 2023 by double balloon colonoscopy IBD sample are collected from small intestine, then that was sent to Vellore Medical college lab where my Crohn's disease is confirmed.
Being an IBD Crohn's patient my mission was to deal with the incurable disease and anyhow to increase my body wt. Chronz disease treatment started on and from the end of 2023. Once started medication I got gradually relieved from most of my IDB related discomfort. Not only that my body wt is increased from 44kg to 47.5kg. Unfortunately in the mean time Bad cholesterol level is helping to recall hypertension. And eventually my hypertension is uprising to get back his position into the body after an intermittent gap. In fact an aged person perhaps can choose the options of diseases with which the rest of the old age span will pass. There is no way to get escape from. Only my friend a patient advocate is exceptional. He may be dubbed as an icon of old man.
[27/08, 11:56]cm: The Crohn's disease in your patient may not be related to your patient's hypertension. Hypertension is due to vascular stiffness that can happen with long term adipocyte mediated endothelial inflammation characteristic of metabolic syn seen in @63MPA's patient and the vascular damage can flare up with smoking and alcohol.
In your patient's case we are not sure of what was his weekly BP since the last three years that he was not following up as he was busy dealing with the Crohn's disease that he could tackle successfully. A sudden isolated BP rise to 201/111 is difficult to interpret as we are told that he received just one single dose of amlodipine following which his subsequent readings came normal. So it's difficult to currently explain yesterday's isolated event unless we have more information surrounding that event. Sudden transient high BP can happen when cerebral autoregulation induces high systemic BP to improve cerebral perfusion during impending stroke.
[27-08-2025 11:59] Meta AI: ### Thematic Analysis of Content
#### Themes:
1. Patient Management Challenges:
- Discontinuation of antihypertensives due to normal follow-up recordings.
- Sudden, unexplained spikes in blood pressure (e.g., 201/111 in one case).
- Complex interplay between Crohn's disease management and hypertension.
2. Advocacy and Coordination Issues:
- Patient advocates struggling to establish continuity in monitoring and treatment adherence.
- The need for better data sharing (e.g., missing biopsy images and management data).
3. Impact of Comorbidities:
- Vascular stiffness and endothelial inflammation as long-term effects of metabolic syndrome.
- Crohn's disease treatment leading to weight gain and improved discomfort, but also potential resurgence of hypertension.
4. Uncertainty in Clinical Events:
- Lack of clarity on isolated BP spikes and their underlying mechanisms.
- Possible links to cerebral autoregulation during transient events like impending stroke.
5. Psychosocial and Aging Perspectives:
- Acceptance of chronic illness as part of aging ("choosing diseases to deal with").
- Emotional support and camaraderie among patient advocates.
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### Evidence-Based Suggestions (with Perplexity-Style References):
1. Strengthen Follow-Up Protocols:
- Recommend mandatory weekly BP monitoring for patients with prior hypertension history, even if follow-ups show normal readings. Evidence suggests consistent monitoring reduces the risk of missed hypertensive events (e.g., JAMA Cardiol., 2022).
2. Integrate Multidisciplinary Data:
- Ensure Crohn's disease management data (e.g., biopsy images, lab results) is accessible in PaJR case reports to aid comprehensive care. Studies highlight the importance of centralized data systems in chronic disease management (Lancet Digital Health, 2021).
3. Investigate Sudden BP Spikes:
- Conduct detailed assessments of acute BP elevations (e.g., cerebral imaging, renal function tests) to rule out secondary causes like stroke or adrenal dysfunction (Hypertension, 2023).
4. Educate Advocates on Comorbidities:
- Provide training on identifying and managing metabolic syndrome-related hypertension in Crohn's disease patients. Literature suggests tailored education improves patient outcomes (BMJ Quality & Safety, 2020).
5. Psychosocial Support Framework:
- Develop a support system for aging patients and advocates to address emotional challenges of living with chronic conditions. Evidence shows group-based interventions improve mental health and adherence (Psychol. Aging, 2019).
Would you like deeper insights into any specific theme or suggestion?
[27-08-2025 12:05] PA: Yesterday's 201/111 is treated by the doctor. Not only Amlodac 5 sir. This reading was found after talking Amlodac 5. Then it was managed by the doctor
[27-08-2025 12:20] PPM 5: Of course. Here is a thematic analysis of the provided content and evidence-based suggestions, presented in the requested style.
### *Thematic Analysis*
The provided dialogue reveals a complex clinical scenario centered around a 63M patient with Crohn's disease and a critical, recent hypertensive emergency. The analysis identifies three core themes:
1. *The Paradox of Patient Self-Advocacy and Care Fragmentation:* The patient is highly engaged and articulate regarding his Crohn's disease journey, detailing his weight loss, diagnostic process (double-balloon colonoscopy, biopsy sent to Vellore), and successful weight gain. This self-advocacy, however, exists alongside a significant gap in the management of his chronic hypertension. His focus on one serious condition (Crohn's) appears to have inadvertently led to the deprioritization of another (HTN), despite the availability of a remote monitoring system (PaJR). This highlights a system where conditions are managed in silos, both by the patient and potentially by the care team.
* *Evidence:* Patient states, "Since 2022 April my wt. was Drastically fallen down due to undiagnosed Crohn's disease... my mission was to deal with the incurable disease... Unfortunately in the mean time... my hypertension is uprising."
2. *The Challenge of Data Continuity and Interpretation in Remote Monitoring:* A central conflict is the absence of continuous blood pressure data. The care team (cm) notes a multi-year gap in weekly BP follow-up, making it impossible to trend the patient's BP or understand the context of the hypertensive crisis (201/111 mmHg). The isolated nature of the event and its apparent response to a single dose of amlodipine creates diagnostic uncertainty, leading to hypotheses ranging from non-adherence to a physiological crisis like impending stroke.
* *Evidence:* cm states, "we are not sure of what was his weekly BP since the last three years... A sudden isolated BP rise to 201/111 is difficult to interpret... unless we have more information."
3. *Navigating Comorbid Disease Interactions and Patient Perception:* The dialogue explores the possible pathophysiological links between the patient's conditions. The care team (cm) initially suggests the conditions are unrelated, attributing HTN to traditional metabolic factors. The patient, however, offers a compelling personal theory: that his severe weight loss (44kg) and subsequent malnutrition led to a resolution of hypertension, which is now "returning" as he gains weight and his "bad cholesterol level is helping to recall hypertension." This theory, while not perfectly medically precise, touches on documented phenomena and reflects a patient trying to make sense of his complex health status.
* *Evidence:* Patient states, "my body wt is increased from 44kg to 47.5kg. Unfortunately in the meantime Bad cholesterol level is helping to recall hypertension." cm counters: "The Crohn's disease in your patient may not be related to your patient's hypertension."
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### *Evidence-Based Suggestions*
Based on the themes identified, here are actionable suggestions supported by clinical literature.
*1. For Addressing Care Fragmentation: Implement a Chronic Care Model with a Designated Care Coordinator*
* *Suggestion:* Assign a dedicated care coordinator (e.g., a nurse practitioner) within the PaJR system to oversee patients with multiple comorbidities. This person's role is to synthesize data from all conditions, ensure follow-up on all fronts, and act as the primary point of contact for patient advocates, preventing any one condition from being neglected.
* *Rationale:* The Chronic Care Model is an evidence-based framework that emphasizes organized, proactive, and patient-centered care, which is crucial for managing multimorbidity. It has been shown to improve outcomes and processes of care for conditions like hypertension and diabetes [1]. A coordinator ensures holistic, not siloed, management.
*2. For Improving Data Continuity: Establish Protocol-Driven Escalation Pathways for Remote Patient Monitoring (RPM)*
* *Suggestion:* Move beyond passive data collection. Implement automated, protocol-driven alerts within the PaJR system. For example, if a patient misses two consecutive weekly BP readings, an automated reminder is sent. If a reading is severely elevated (e.g., >180/110 mmHg), it triggers an immediate alert to a clinician for same-day contact.
* *Rationale:* RPM is effective only with clinical oversight and structured response protocols. Studies show that RPM with algorithm-based titration and pharmacist-led management significantly improves BP control compared to usual care [2]. This would have prevented the multi-year data gap and ensured a timely response to the crisis.
*3. For Managing Hypertension in the Context of IBD and Weight Flux:*
* *Suggestion:*
a. *Formal Diagnosis:* Treat the BP of 201/111 mmHg as a hypertensive urgency. The goal is to confirm the diagnosis of hypertension over 1-2 weeks with repeated, careful measurements (e.g., home BP monitoring or ambulatory BP monitoring) before initiating or re-initiating long-term therapy [3].
b. *Medication Choice:* Given the patient's history of Crohn's disease and immunosuppressant use, when choosing an antihypertensive, be cautious of medications that can exacerbate electrolyte imbalances (e.g., diuretics if dehydrated) or cause other GI issues. ARBs or ACE inhibitors are often preferred first-line agents for their metabolic profile.
c. *Address Patient Theory:* Acknowledge the patient's insight. Severe malnutrition and weight loss can indeed lead to lower BP, and weight regain is a strong driver of hypertension [4]. His observation has a physiological basis. This should be used as a teaching point to reinforce the importance of managing both weight and BP moving forward.
* *Rationale:* Guidelines from the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association (ACC/AHA) emphasize accurate diagnosis and patient-centered care [3]. The interplay between nutrition, weight, and CV risk in IBD patients is a recognized area of concern, requiring careful management [5].
### *References (Perplexity Style)*
[1] *The Chronic Care Model*
Barr, V. J., Robinson, S., Marin-Link, B., Underhill, L., Dotts, A., Ravensdale, D., & Salivaras, S. (2003). The Expanded Chronic Care Model: An Integration of Concepts and Strategies from Population Health Promotion and the Chronic Care Model. Healthcare Quarterly, 7(1), 73-82.
* Summary: This foundational paper outlines the evidence-based elements of the Chronic Care Model, highlighting its effectiveness in improving care for patients with long-term conditions through organized, proactive, and coordinated systems.
[2] *Remote Patient Monitoring for Hypertension*
McManus, R. J., et al. (2018). Efficacy of self-monitored blood pressure, with or without telemonitoring, for titration of antihypertensive medication (TASMINH4): an unmasked randomised controlled trial. The Lancet, 391(10124), 949-959.
* Summary: A key RCT demonstrating that self-monitoring of BP, particularly when combined with telemonitoring and protocolized medication titration, leads to significantly greater reductions in systolic BP compared to standard clinic-based care.
[3] *2017 ACC/AHA Hypertension Guideline*
Whelton, P. K., et al. (2018). 2017 ACC/AHA/AAPA/ABC/ACPM/AGS/APhA/ASH/ASPC/NMA/PCNA Guideline for the Prevention, Detection, Evaluation, and Management of High Blood Pressure in Adults. Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 71(19), e127-e248.
* Summary: The definitive clinical practice guideline for hypertension management. It provides clear criteria for diagnosis (including the use of out-of-office monitoring) and outlines evidence-based treatment strategies, emphasizing the need for accurate measurement before diagnosis.
[4] *Weight Gain and Hypertension*
Neter, J. E., Stam, B. E., Kok, F. J., Grobbee, D. E., & Geleijnse, J. M. (2003). Influence of weight reduction on blood pressure: a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. Hypertension, 42(5), 878-884.
* Summary: A meta-analysis confirming a direct dose-response relationship between weight loss and reduction in blood pressure. Conversely, it supports the patient's experience that weight gain is a significant risk factor for the development or recurrence of hypertension.
[5] *Cardiovascular Risk in Inflammatory Bowel Disease*
Singh, S., et al. (2016). Inflammatory Bowel Disease Is Associated With an Increased Risk of Hypertension. Journal of the American Heart Association, 5(12), e004507.
* Summary: This large cohort study establishes that patients with IBD (Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis) have a higher risk of developing hypertension compared to the general population, independent of traditional risk factors, highlighting the need for vigilant CV risk management in this population.
[27-08-2025 12:32] PPM 4: S4 heart sound detected with auscultation?
[27-08-2025 12:39] PPM 3: The patient is not here at the hospital sir
[27-08-2025 12:49] PPM 1: Any idea what other drugs were used by his local doctor?
[27-08-2025 12:50] PPM 1: After how many hours of the amlodac 5? What was his reading prior to that? How many readings were available?
[27-08-2025 13:34] PA: Lalix and some other injections
[27-08-2025 13:36] PA: At the time of discharge at evening BP was 130/80
[27-08-2025 13:49] PPM 1: Other injection like nitroglycerin or nitroprusside or labetalol?
[27-08-2025 13:53] PA: I don't know the other name. Nurse told visiting doctor the names. lalix was one of the inj.
[27-08-2025 13:58] PPM 1: No information provided to patient as treatment summary?
[27-08-2025 14:02] PA: No. Only 1) Amlodac 5, 2) Temla 40, Prescribed at the time of discharge
[27-08-2025 16.59] PPM 1: Another famous patient who had a similar BP due to unknown reasons recently published after nearly 100 years!👇
"ECGs of a 70-year-old man who had uncontrolled hypertension. His history is significant for marked fluctuations in blood pressure recordings, with a highest recorded blood pressure of 220/110 mm Hg.
The ECGs in Figures 1 and 2 were taken on April 30, 1939, and February 19, 1940."
[27-08-2025 22.02] PA: 27/08/2025
BP monitoring
Time BP Pulse
6.35 A.M 125/86 66
(Took hypothyroidism medication Thyrox 25. Skipped yoga practice as I do regulaly for 10 to 15 Min. Breakfast taken with puffed rice, curds and banana. Then Amlodac 5 taken)
8.00A.M. 116/81 74
10.00 A.M 114/83 68
(White part of a boiled egg and half of apple taken.)
12.26 A.M. 98/77 77
(1.15 P.M. Launch taken with dal, sobji and fish curry).
1.56 P.M. 108/79 72
4.00 P.M. 102/77 101
5.22 P.M. 116/81 94
6.22 P.M. 97/81 81
(Evening snacks with a banana, muri and tea)
8.22P.M. 118/85 67
(Supper at 9.15 P.M. with dal sabji and fish curry)
10.30 A.M. 121/84 65
[07-09-2025 21.45] PA:
[09-09-2025 12:50] PPM 1: Had checked yesterday. All appears normal. Not sure why they were necessary
[09-09-2025 13:00] PA: A local doctor suggested for opinion of Cardiologist. He prescribed Navister 2.5 once at bedtime. After taking this my pulse rate decreased to around 50.
[09-08-2025 13.39] PPM 1: It's okay. Can continue but yes it's difficult to say at this point as to how much benefit the patient is likely to have due to the medicine. Why did the local doctor send to cardiologist?
[09-09-2025 14:17] PA: Two days after having admitted for hospital for six hours, at midnight felt BP is again increasing. Then Measured 160/100 again. Next day morning BP again became normal to 130/80. So local doctor suggested to take an opinion of a Cardiologist for such fluctuations. After continuing navistar 2.5 BP is still normal. Only pulse rate is lowered. Though feeling no discomfort for this.
[10-09-2025 06:48] PPM 1: When was the patient admitted in the hospital? What date? Is the local doctor working in that same hospital?
Cardiologist opinion means the cardiologist will do a clinical examination of the patient and try to infer the current requirements and root cause of the patient's fluctuating BP.
Anyone with an expertise in clinical examination can evaluate the patient and infer same.
Meanwhile @Meta AI @PPM3 what are the differentials and various optimal ways to approach this patient's problem of fluctuating blood pressure ranging from readings such as 200/110 to 160/100 to perfectly normal BP for a whole day since weeks in the background of Crohn's disease on steroids and azathioprine for a year. Interestingly just writing this summary itself pointed to a drug induced cause!
[10-09-2025 06:48] Meta AI: ## Analysis of Patient's Hospital Admission and Blood Pressure Fluctuations
### Hospital Admission Date
The exact date of hospital admission isn't specified in the provided text. However, based on the context, it seems the admission occurred a couple of days before the midnight BP spike (160/100).
### Local Doctor's Affiliation
There's no indication that the local doctor works in the same hospital where the patient was admitted. The patient seems to have consulted the local doctor after discharge, who then suggested a cardiologist's opinion.
### Cardiologist Opinion
A cardiologist's evaluation would indeed involve a clinical examination to assess the patient's cardiovascular health, identify potential causes of fluctuating blood pressure, and determine the best course of treatment. This might include reviewing medication history, lifestyle factors, and potential interactions between Crohn's disease treatment and blood pressure regulation.
### Differential Diagnoses for Fluctuating Blood Pressure
Given the patient's background of Crohn's disease on steroids and azathioprine, potential differentials for fluctuating blood pressure could include:
1. Drug-induced hypertension: Steroids are known to cause blood pressure fluctuations.
2. Adrenal dysfunction: Fluctuations could be related to adrenal gland issues, potentially exacerbated by steroid use.
3. Renal involvement: Crohn's disease or medications could affect kidney function, leading to blood pressure variability.
4. Vascular stiffness: Long-term effects of hypertension or underlying metabolic syndrome.
5. White coat hypertension: Anxiety in clinical settings causing temporary spikes.
### Optimal Approach
1. Medication review: Assess the impact of steroids and azathioprine on blood pressure and consider alternatives if necessary.
2. Ambulatory blood pressure monitoring (ABPM): To capture fluctuations over 24 hours and identify patterns.
3. Renal function tests: Evaluate kidney function to rule out renal causes.
4. Lifestyle modifications: Diet, exercise, and stress management to stabilize blood pressure.
5. Regular follow-ups: Close monitoring of blood pressure and adjustment of treatment plans as needed.
The observation that writing the summary pointed towards a drug-induced cause highlights the importance of considering medication side effects in the diagnostic process.
[10-09-2025 06:50] PPM 1: 👆@PA please enter all the current medications this patient is taking as in the time slots shown here for entering BP
[10-09-2025 07:07] PA: No steroids taking. Only ezoran 75 since Nov. 2023. Presently there is almost no chron's related complication.
Patient was admitted on 26/08/2025 11A.M released at 6.00P.M. when BP is 130/80
On 28/08/2025 midnight when BP became 160/100 went to hospital emergency. Doctor suggested not to be admitted. He prescribed a sleeping pill and told a sound sleep is needed to normalize BP. Then take opinion of a Cardiologist. On 29/08 morning BP was 130/80 again.
[10-09-2025 07:52] PPM 1: @Meta AI any reported effect of azathioprine and transient BP elevations? Please support your statements with perplexity styled references
[10-09-2025 07:52] Meta AI: ## Azathioprine and Transient Blood Pressure Elevations
There's limited direct evidence linking azathioprine to transient blood pressure (BP) elevations. However, azathioprine is known to cause various side effects, including:
- Hypotension: Azathioprine-induced hypotension is documented, particularly in cases of hypersensitivity reactions, which may be accompanied by symptoms like malaise, headache, and renal dysfunction.
- Renal Effects: Azathioprine can cause renal toxicity, including acute interstitial nephritis and chronic allograft nephropathy, which might indirectly influence blood pressure.
- Hepatic Effects: Azathioprine is associated with hepatotoxicity, including cholestasis and veno-occlusive disease, which could potentially impact blood pressure regulation.¹
While there's no clear evidence of azathioprine directly causing transient BP elevations, it's essential to consider the following:
- Steroid-induced hypertension: If the patient is taking steroids alongside azathioprine, steroids are known to cause blood pressure fluctuations.
- Underlying conditions: Crohn's disease itself or concomitant medications might contribute to blood pressure variability.
To determine the cause of transient BP elevations in this patient, consider:
- Medication review: Assess the impact of azathioprine, steroids, and other medications on blood pressure.
- Ambulatory blood pressure monitoring (ABPM): Capture fluctuations over 24 hours to identify patterns.
- Renal function tests: Evaluate kidney function to rule out renal causes.
- Lifestyle modifications: Diet, exercise, and stress management to stabilize blood pressure.²
[10-09-2025 07:53] Meta AI: https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/drug-induced-hypertension
[10-09-2025 07:53] Meta AI: https://www.drugs.com/sfx/azathioprine-side-effects.html
[10-09-2025 10:33] PPM 3: Of course. This is an excellent and complex clinical case. Let's break it down systematically.
First, to address your direct questions:
1. *When was the patient admitted?* The text states the patient was admitted to the hospital for six hours, "two days ago" from the time of this narrative. However, a specific calendar date (e.g., September 8, 2025) is not provided in the information you shared.
2. *Is the local doctor working in that same hospital?* Based on the context, it is highly likely that the "local doctor" is the patient's primary care physician or general practitioner who is not working at the hospital. This is inferred because they are the one who suggested the patient be admitted to the hospital and are now recommending a specialist (cardiologist) opinion after the discharge.
Now, let's move to the core of your query: the clinical approach to this fluctuating hypertension.
### Differentials (Possible Causes) for Fluctuating Hypertension
Your intuition is correct; the medication background is the most critical piece of the puzzle. The differentials can be thought of in this order of probability:
*1. Drug-Induced Causes (Most Likely)*
* *Corticosteroids (e.g., Prednisone for Crohn's):* This is the *prime suspect*. Steroids are well-known to cause hypertension through several mechanisms: sodium and fluid retention, increased peripheral vascular resistance, and potentiating the effects of other pressor hormones. The pattern can be erratic, especially if dosing times vary or the body's response is idiosyncratic.
* *NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs):* Often used for pain and inflammation in conditions like Crohn's. They can cause hypertension by inhibiting prostaglandins that lead to renal vasodilation and sodium retention. The combination of steroids + NSAIDs is particularly potent for raising BP.
* *Other Medications:* While azathioprine is not typically associated with hypertension, it's important to review the entire medication list for other culprits (e.g., decongestants, herbal supplements like licorice).
*2. Underlying Chronic Condition*
* *Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD):* Crohn's disease itself, or its treatment, can sometimes lead to renal complications (e.g., amyloidosis, glomerulonephritis). Impaired kidney function is a leading cause of secondary hypertension and can sometimes present with fluctuations.
* *Autonomic Dysfunction:* While less common, chronic illnesses can sometimes disrupt the autonomic nervous system, which is responsible for the fine-tuning of blood pressure. This can lead to orthostatic hypotension or paradoxical hypertensive spikes.
*3. Other Secondary Causes of Hypertension (to be ruled out)*
* *Pheochromocytoma:* A rare tumor of the adrenal gland that secretes catecholamines (epinephrine, norepinephrine), causing *episodic, dramatic, and fluctuating hypertension* accompanied by headaches, sweating, and palpitations. The described pattern is classic for this, though the steroid effect is a more common explanation. It must be considered.
* *Primary Hyperaldosteronism:* Can cause resistant hypertension, but the fluctuations are usually less dramatic.
* *Sleep Apnea:* A very common cause of resistant and fluctuating hypertension, particularly noted during sleep and upon waking.
* *Thyroid Dysfunction:* Both hyper- and hypothyroidism can contribute to hypertension.
*4. "White Coat" or Masked Hypertension*
* The fluctuations could be related to measurement context (e.g., anxiety at the hospital or at night leading to high readings, with normal readings at home when calm). However, the severity of the highs (200/110) makes this less likely as the sole cause.
### Optimal Ways to Approach This Patient's Problem
A structured, step-by-step approach is essential.
*1. Detailed History & Medication Review (The Cardiologist's First Step):*
* *Confirm the exact steroid:* Name (e.g., prednisone, budesonide), dose, timing, and duration of use.
* *Review all other medications:* Prescription, over-the-counter, and supplements.
* *24-hour BP pattern:* When do the spikes occur? Any relation to the steroid dose? Any symptoms during spikes (headache, palpitations, sweating)?
* *Sleep history:* Snoring, witnessed apneas, daytime sleepiness? (for sleep apnea screening).
*2. Invest in Accurate BP Monitoring:*
* *Ambulatory Blood Pressure Monitoring (ABPM):* This is a *gold-standard* tool for this situation. A wearable cuff takes BP readings every 20-30 minutes for 24 hours. It will objectively confirm the fluctuation pattern, show if it's related to sleep (nocturnal hypertension), and provide a true average BP, which is a better predictor of risk than isolated readings.
*3. Initial Targeted Investigations:*
* *Basic Blood Tests:* Electrolytes (especially potassium, as steroids and aldosterone can cause hypokalemia), Renal Function (Creatinine, eGFR), Glucose (steroids cause hyperglycemia).
* *Urine Analysis:* To check for protein (indicating renal damage) and blood.
* *ECG:* To assess for any evidence of left ventricular hypertrophy (heart strain from chronic high BP) or other issues.
*4. Evaluating for Secondary Causes (If indicated):*
* If steroids are ruled out or the pattern is highly episodic with symptoms, tests for pheochromocytoma would be crucial: *24-hour urine collection for metanephrines and catecholamines* or *plasma free metanephrines*.
* Sleep study if sleep apnea is suspected.
* Renal ultrasound if kidney disease is suspected.
### The Role of the Cardiologist and Other Specialists
* *Cardiologist:* Will perform the clinical examination, interpret the ABPM and ECG, manage the antihypertensive medications (like adjusting the Navistar/Amlodipine), and initiate the workup for secondary hypertension. They are the central coordinator for the hypertension puzzle.
* *Gastroenterologist:* *Must be involved.* The core dilemma is balancing Crohn's disease control with the side effects of its treatment. The cardiologist's feedback will push them to answer: "Can we reduce the steroid dose? Can we transition to a steroid-sparing therapy?"
* *Primary Care Physician (Local Doctor):* Essential for long-term monitoring and coordinating care between the specialists.
### Conclusion and Immediate Next Steps
Your suspicion is very astute. *The most probable cause is corticosteroid-induced hypertension.* The fluctuating pattern is not uncommon with this.
The optimal approach is:
1. *Consult the Cardiologist* as advised. They will likely order an *ABPM* and basic blood work.
2. *The Gastroenterologist must be informed* of these significant side effects to re-evaluate the Crohn's treatment plan. The goal is to reduce and eventually stop the steroids if possible.
3. *Continue the current antihypertensive (Navistar/Amlodipine 2.5mg)* as it is controlling the BP without side effects (the lowered pulse rate is a known effect of calcium channel blockers and is not a concern if the patient is asymptomatic).
4. *Do not stop any medications abruptly* without consulting the doctors.
This patient needs a collaborative effort between gastroenterology and cardiology to find the right balance between treating their Crohn's disease and managing the serious side effect of hypertension.
[10-09-2025 12:34] PPM 1: Since when did he stop steroids? Over a year?
[10-09-2025 12:48] PA: 2023 September thrice dairy
2023 October twice daily
2023 December once daily
Since January 2024 the patient has taken no steroid till now.
Only doses of Ezoran is gradually increased. January to March Ezoran 25, April to June Ezoran 50, July to September 2024 Ezoran 75.
At October 2024 doctor didn't increase the dose , as the patient body wt is only 46 kg. Since then the patient is continuing Ezoran 75. In the meantime his chronz related symptoms is almost recovered. and body wt increased to 47.5kg.
[10-09-2025 12:52] PPM 1: What dose thrice daily?
[10-09-2025 13:28] PA: Old prescription was in Bangalore. Forgotten the steroid name
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