Sputum Monitoring ProJR

 

December 30, 2025

Sputum Monitoring Project:

Sputum monitoring is a crucial diagnostic tool for respiratory diseases like COPD, asthma, and pneumonia. Here's a possible introduction:

 Project Title: Sputum Monitoring for Early Detection and Management of Respiratory Diseases

Objective:

Implement a sputum monitoring system to track changes in respiratory health, enabling early detection and effective management of respiratory diseases.

Key Components:

- Patient education on sputum collection and monitoring

- Standardized sputum collection and analysis protocols

- Regular monitoring and reporting of sputum characteristics (e.g., color, consistency, volume)

- Integration with healthcare provider teams for timely interventions

Expected Outcomes:

- Improved disease management and patient outcomes

- Reduced hospitalizations and healthcare costs

- Enhanced patient engagement and self-management

The recent case of an 18 year old female who after coming back home from college had fever with 101.5F, cough, cold and body pains. The temperature was slowly increasing with chills, slight chest pain and backache. The patient's BP was low with high pulse rate and respiratory rate.

Suspecting Pneumonia, she was asked to monitor her sputum regularly and was confirmed.

For more details of this patient's problem available in the below link.👇

https://pajrcasereporter.blogspot.com/2025/03/18f-journey-from-fetal-life-diet.html

Another patient with COPD 👇

https://pajrcasereporter.blogspot.com/2025/08/74f-with-copd-and-fever-plantar.html

UDLCO ProJR

 

Saturday, December 27, 2025

UDLCO ProJR: The role of human agentic volunteers in emotion driven economies with trust as a currency and AI in an empathic infrastructural loop

Summary: 

The text discusses the concept of "emotional economies" where empathy, trust, and emotional resonance drive value. It highlights the role of human agentic volunteers in creating empathic infrastructure, leveraging AI, and addressing power inequities in healthcare. The authors propose participatory action research and community-driven ecosystems to bridge the gap between emotional economic research and practical application.

*Key Words:*

Emotional economies, empathy, trust, volunteers, healthcare, participatory action research, community-driven ecosystems, AI, power inequities.

Introduction and review of literature:

This review and user driven learning community ontology transcripts provide an overview of "the emotional economy, a shift where competitive advantage no longer stems from hardware, efficiency, or feature lists, but from the emotions products evoke through experience, interface, and brand identity. It signals an evolution of capitalism itself: from an age defined by industrial efficiency to one driven by experiential meaning.

In many ways, this extends the Business-to-Humans (B2H) mindset. Companies no longer think in terms of markets — B2B or B2C — but in terms of human relationships that hold emotional value. Empathy becomes infrastructure. Trust becomes currency. Emotional resonance becomes strategy."

Unquoted from: https://medium.com/design-bootcamp/the-emotional-economy-how-emotional-experiences-are-becoming-the-next-frontier-dfbfacfdd8b9

The key to build an empathic infrastructure for emotional economies to thrive:

"Regularly engaging in volunteer work hones empathy, the ability to understand and share the feelings of another, which enhances emotional intelligence—a critical factor in overall happiness. As volunteers interact with diverse individuals, they develop an aptitude for emotional cues and foster patience, understanding, and attentiveness. Empowered with these skills, volunteers tend to communicate better in personal and professional settings, leading to enriched relationships and personal fulfillment." Unquote: https://fightforright.in/the-health-benefits-volunteers-enjoy#:~:text=Then%20there's%20the%20underrated%20yet,enriched%20relationships%20and%20personal%20fulfillment.

Current positivist research translation barriers to translation of emotional economies at scale:

"Current positivist approaches have largely overlooked consideration of how power works in urban socio-ecological systems. Questions surrounding marginalization and exclusion, of who creates what type of urban ecological knowledge for whose benefit, are often eclipsed by analyses of the extent and benefits of urban greenspace. This is not to say that this work is not important, rather that it needs to be balanced with and supplemented by empirical and theoretical analyses of the power-laden political processes behind the production and distribution of benefits." Unquote: https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/13/14/7867#:~:text=Abstract,come%20apart%20or%20change%20directions.

Qualitative solutions to bridging emotional economic power inequity research to translation gap: 

"Emotional economies of care are thought of as multiplicities and becomings in the style of Deleuze and Guattari [1], allowing us to think of them as a composition of multiple human and nonhuman bodies joined by their increased capacity to act (their affects). Ref 1: Deleuze, G.; Guattari, F. A Thousand Plateaus Capitalism and Schizophrenia; University of Minnesota Press: Minneapolis, MN, USA, 1987 more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Thousand_Plateaus

"One encouraging prospect for the becomings of emotional economies of care is found in Althusser’s [ref within ref rwf 2] aleatory materialism of the encounter." "if we think of emotion as circulating and creating value, it is apparent that there needs to be an ongoing series of encounters for these emotions to circulate between more and more participants to enable the growth of emotional economies of care and the accumulation of value. However, there is a tension between reading aleatory materialism as completely up to chance and recognizing the effects of previous encounters [ref within ref rwf 3]. What bringing in this sense of history helps to retain is the balance between pure prefiguration and pure contingency, acknowledging that “the present encounter reopens past encounters.” (rwf 2: Althusser, L. Philosophy of the Encounter: Later Writings, 1978–1987; Verso: London, UK, 2006), (ref 3: Pedwell, C. Affective Relations: The Transnational Politics of Empathy; Palgrave Macmillan: London, UK, 2014. ). In recent times healthcare workers, oblivious of previous work as detailed above, have developed emotional economies of care through persistent clinical encounters using academic tools to create user driven community ontologies. (Ref 4 : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344227236_Persistent_Clinical_Encounters_in_User_Driven_E-Health_Care, ref 5 : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234164624_Patient_Journey_Record_Systems_PaJR_The_development_of_a_conceptual_framework_for_a_patient_journey_system_Part_1, ref 6: Narketpally syndrome, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40674544/, ref 7: Rethinking complex care: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41364730/)

Methodology:

Participatory action research in regular real time clinical encounters between patient advocate, non commercial volunteers and deidentified patients through a transparent and accountable interface with minimal patient privacy trade offs after a rigorous DPDP compliant consent collection process from the patient.

Results: 

5000 cases over 5 years here:

The 5000 records that were made over 5 years largely depended on our student users where we made this a curricular activity that are logged in 1000 student online learning portfolios here: https://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2022/02/?m=0

500 cases over last one year here: 

Meanwhile here's our currently toned down version since 2024, where we use a single point data capturer and longitudinal follow through moderator and single archivist that clocks near around 500 longitudinal records per year made freely available with the necessary DPDP complaint safeguards using an age old "case reports" model: https://pajrcasereporter.blogspot.com/?m=1

We still hope to train students in spite of contrarian current curricular demands and scale this learning model (completely non commercial) to map a much wider population more meaningfully than what is perhaps visible currently.

Disease event related conversational transcripts from a single patient PaJR case report published here: https://pajrcasereporter.blogspot.com/2025/03/18f-journey-from-fetal-life-diet.html?m=1

The gist of it is that this patient had a viral fever, which necessitated regular monitoring and conservative management. It may have been managed more rationally and with high value without having to over test and overtreat in a home health care setting if only there was such a support system available locally. What actually was available locally made them spend a larger amount of "out of pocket expenses" for a short duration of stay with need for similar meticulous monitoring even after discharge. 

This brought out thoughts of how to strategize a working community driven ecosystem of trained nurses and doctor volunteers capable of managing such patients in the community partnering with pre existing government/public health infrastructure.

Discussion:

"Beyond personal motivations, the emergence of medical volunteerism often stems as a response to the politics of needs interpretation within a society, the contestation in determining which welfare needs deserve legitimation and which institutions assume responsibility for its fulfillment. Volunteers and their contributions could be interpreted as a mode of discursive engagement when the state fails to adequately serve marginalized needs." Unquote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_volunteerism

"Progression towards more ethical and sustainable change necessitates volunteers to prioritize the creation of long-term relationships with local healthcare facilities and providers. Sustainable development in this field can only be achieved once medical outreach is reframed not as isolated interventions but as an ongoing process that strengthens the capacity of local institutional care. Through integrating their mission goals with preexisting local community systems, volunteer collectives can collaborate with local governance to provide care in areas where current state provisioning fails. This collaborative model would ensure the impact of volunteer labor to reach structural inequalities that persist and outlast deployment timeframes, offering systemic aid to unmet health rights within marginalized populations." "Because people's experiences are not entirely bounded by “communities,” developing programs to address health problems and behavior at the “community” level, will always be insufficient – no matter how well designed an intervention may be. To effectively achieve the goals of a Culture of Health, we must work actively to create a more just and equitable society writ large. Vulnerable populations must be shown convincingly that their lives matter. Unquote: Mason, Katherine A.; Willen, Sarah S.; Holmes, Seth M.; Herd, Denise A.; Nichter, Mark; Castañeda, Heide; Hansen, Helena (December 2020). "How Do You Build a "Culture of Health"? A Critical Analysis of Challenges and Opportunities from Medical Anthropology" Population Health Management. 23 (6): 476–481. 

 doi:10.1089/pop.2019.0179. ISSN 1942-7905. PMC 7703238. PMID 31928510

CC licence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Community_health_worker_gives_a_vaccination_in_Odisha_state,_India_%288380317750%29.jpg

Thematic Analysis:

The text explores the intersection of empathy, technology, and social change, emphasizing:

1. *Empathy as infrastructure*: Building emotional economies requires empathy and trust.

2. *Volunteer-driven care*: Human agentic volunteers play a crucial role in healthcare.

3. *Power dynamics*: Addressing inequities and marginalization is essential.

4. *Collaborative approach*: Community-driven ecosystems and participatory research can drive change.

5. *AI and empathy*: Integrating AI can enhance empathic infrastructure.

The text advocates for a shift towards more inclusive, community-driven healthcare models, prioritizing empathy, trust, and social justice.

### Core Thesis: The Emotional Economy in Healthcare

The central argument is that value creation is undergoing a fundamental shift—from industrial efficiency to

 **experiential meaning**. In healthcare, this translates to an **"emotional economy"** where:

*   **Empathy is the infrastructure** (the foundational system for care).

*   **Trust is the currency** (the medium of exchange that enables action).

*   **Emotional resonance is the strategy** (the method for achieving sustainable outcomes).

### The Critical Engine: Human Agentic Volunteers

The text posits that volunteers are not just ancillary helpers but the essential **"agentic"** (active, purposeful) force for building this empathic infrastructure. They are uniquely positioned to:

1.  **Hone and Deploy Empathy:** Their work naturally develops the emotional intelligence needed to understand complex patient journeys.

2.  **Address Systemic Gaps:** They respond to the "politics of needs interpretation," serving where state or market systems fail marginalized populations.

3.  **Create Sustainable Value:** By forming longitudinal relationships, they facilitate the "circulation" of care and trust that defines the emotional economy.

### The Problem: Positivist Research & Power Inequities

Current mainstream ("positivist") health research and systems often ignore critical questions of **power, marginalization, and exclusion**. They may map benefits (e.g., urban greenspace) but fail to analyze who controls knowledge, for whose benefit, and who is left out. This creates a significant gap between research on compassionate care and its practical, equitable application.

### The Proposed Methodology: Bridging the Gap

To overcome these barriers, the authors advocate for **Participatory Action Research (PAR)** embedded in real-world clinical encounters. This involves:

*   **Community-Driven Ontologies:** Creating knowledge systems (like the User Driven Learning Community Ontology) from the ground up, based on persistent patient-clinician-advocate encounters.

*   **Longitudinal Case Reporting:** The provided examples (5,000 cases over 5 years, 500/year currently) demonstrate a working model for capturing the nuanced, emotional, and socio-economic dimensions of illness that traditional records miss.

*   **Rigorous Ethics:** Operating with transparency, accountability, and strong data privacy (DPDP compliance) as a non-commercial endeavor.

### The Strategic Vision: Community-Driven Ecosystems

The ultimate goal is not isolated interventions but the creation of **resilient community-driven healthcare ecosystems**. This involves:

*   **Reframing Volunteerism:** Moving from short-term medical outreach to deep, long-term collaboration that strengthens **local institutional capacity**.

*   **Integrating with Public Systems:** Partnering with pre-existing government/public health infrastructure to provide scalable, high-value care (e.g., community-based management of viral fevers to prevent costly hospitalization).

*   **Leveraging AI in an Empathic Loop:** Proposing a role for AI not as a replacement for human empathy, but as a tool within an "empathic infrastructural loop" to support volunteers and scale insights from qualitative data.

### Thematic Conclusion: A Call for Systemic Change

The text is a call to action for a more just and equitable health society. It argues that:

1.  **Technical solutions are insufficient.** Building a true "Culture of Health" requires confronting power inequities and structural inequalities head-on.

2.  **Community and relationship are primary.** Sustainable change is rooted in trust and long-term human connections, not just transactional care.

3.  **Value is co-created.** Patients, volunteers, and advocates are not passive recipients but active co-creators of health knowledge and systems.

In essence, the post outlines a radical, human-centric blueprint for healthcare where emotional intelligence, volunteer agency, participatory research, and ethical technology converge to build systems that are not only more effective but also more fundamentally caring and just.

80M Narketpally sign with 2 imaginary pillows, backache 15 yrs, CKD 10 yrs Telangana PaJR

 

26-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PPROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[4.37 pm, 26/12/2025] PPM 1: Handwritten history

                                     

25M It hc pain 3 days, jaundice 3 years back recovered, spastic quadriparesis birth, Telangana PaJR

26-10-2023

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGHSERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

A 20 years old male came to opd with chief complaints of yellowish discoloration of eyes since 1 year.. The patient was apparently asymptomatic 1 year back then developed yellowish discoloration of eyes Positive history: loss of appetite, irregular bowel and bladder movements, dehydration

Negative history: N/K/C/O asthma, TB, epilepsy, thyroid.

[12.15 pm, 26/12/2025] PPM 1: Reviewing this patient now after 2 years in OPD

22M Hypertension on OPD screen, chest pain 3 weeks WB PaJR

 

26-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[12:58 pm, 26/12/2025] PPM 1: The patient advocate will share the details of the patient's chest pain and also share his daily activities here along with his food plates and his weekly BP readings

[1:22 pm, 26/12/2025] PA: The patient is a 22 year old male, completely alright 3 months back.... Detected HTN (BP= 160/100) on screening, All the lab investigations were done to rule out secondary causes, everything was normal except Lipid profile Total cholesterol= 222 mg/dl, TG = 224 mg/dl, 

LDL = 122 mg/dl, HDL= 44 mg/dl, Grade 1 Fatty liver was detected on USG w/a, ECG was showing sinus tachycardia..... The pt is started on METOPROLOL SUCCINATE SUSTAINED RELEASE 50 MG OD, TELMA 40, ATROVA 10 ODHS. 3 weeks back he developed right sided chest pain just right to sternal angle along with right scapular pain, ECG and CXR was done which is given below 👇

66F Acute ILD sepsis hypotension, CCF Anemia Telangana PaJR

 

24-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[5.00 pm, 24/12/2025] PPM 1: Handwritten history

75M Toe gangrene and bullous lesion days, Parkinson's dementia DM2 HTN metabolic syn Telangana PaJR

 

20-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[7.31 pm, 20/12/2025] PPM 1: 75 year old man with Diabetes 10 years and difficulty in walking with gait suggestive of Parkinson's disease and bullous lesions on left toe with right toe gangrene since 3 days. Handwritten history notes.

79F Right hemiparesis, hyponatremia, drowsiness, metabolic syn, hypertension DM2, Telangana PaJR

 

18-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[8.58 pm, 19/12/2025] PPM 1: Patient had a sudden slurring of speech on 14th December evening and they started bringing her to Hyderabad the next morning on 15th when she had a seizure on the way and they decided to get admitted here.

39F PUO Viral giddiness vomiting Thrombophlebitis Telangana PaJR

 

18-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THIS PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[4.41 pm, 19/12/2025] PPM 1: Summary: This is a record of a common viral fever also presenting with vestibular neuronitis like symptoms who had a second peak of fever due to a common nosocomial iatrogenic inflammation that is often confused with sepsis worsening and leads to overtreatment with antibiotics escalation when the actual management needs to focus on stopping iv and removing the lines. 

59M Abdominal pain, vomiting, slurred speech, weakness, severe Hyponatremia, Toddy potomania, PaJR

 

18-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HIS SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[10.49 am, 19/12/2025] PPM 1: History shared by @PPM3 

C/o pain abdomen since 10 days

Loss of appetite since 10 days

Vomitings since 8 days 

Unable to walk properly since yesterday 

Slurring of speech since yesterday 

Hiccups since yesterday 

Fever since yesterday 

80F Severe anemia to ?GI loss, ?Hematoma, Hypovolemic Hyponatremia Telangana PaJR

 

16-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS WITH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[9.59 pm, 16/12/2025] PPM 1: Handwritten history and updates with clinical images and radiology

[10.04 pm, 16/12/2025] PPM 1: 👇Current X-ray shows not just her present right inter trochanteric fracture but also her past left fracture treated years back with an Austin Moore prosthesis

[10.06 pm, 16/12/2025] PPM 1: @PPM3 @Meta AI in summary this lady with a hip fracture had a sudden drop in hemoglobin and sodium few days after admission for the right hip fracture while she was being evaluated and prepared over days for an operative intervention for her recent right sided fracture.

How commonly described in the literature is hyponatremia due to a fracture hematoma?

[10.07 pm, 16/12/2025] Meta AI: That's a fascinating case 😊. Hyponatremia due to fracture hematoma is a recognized phenomenon, though not super common. It's often referred to as "fracture-related hyponatremia" or "hematoma-induced hyponatremia".

Studies suggest that hyponatremia can occur in up to 10-30% of patients with hip fractures, though the exact incidence varies. The proposed mechanism involves the release of antidiuretic hormone (ADH) and other factors from the fracture hematoma, leading to water retention and dilutional hyponatremia.

Would you like more details on the pathophysiology or management of this condition?

[10.08 pm, 16/12/2025] PPM 1: @Meta AI sodium at one point was 118 followed by 125

Please share some studies or case reports of fracture hematomas associated with hyponatremia that may point to some causality.

@Meta AI yes and please share perplexity styled urls to accompany these references.

@PPM4 can you cross check with Google?

[10.10 pm, 16/12/2025] Meta AI: Hyponatremia's link to fracture hematomas isn't super well-documented, but there are some interesting studies and case reports that might shed some light on this.

One study in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism (2013) found that hyponatremia was associated with increased risk of fractures, possibly due to altered bone metabolism and increased bone resorption.

A case report in the European Journal of Endocrinology (2015) described a patient with severe hyponatremia (sodium 118 mmol/L) who developed a femoral neck fracture after a minor fall, with significant hematoma formation. The authors suggested that hyponatremia might have contributed to the fracture and hematoma.

Another study in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research (2016) found that mild hyponatremia was associated with increased risk of fractures, including hip fractures, in older adults.

These studies don't establish causality, but they do suggest a possible link between hyponatremia and fracture risk, including hematoma formation. Would you like more info on this or specific aspects of these studies?

[10.10 pm, 16/12/2025] Meta AI: Gotcha! 😊 I'll share the links in a Perplexity-style format. Before I proceed, just to clarify, are you looking for specific types of references or topics you'd like me to search for?

Also, what do you mean by "cross check with Google"? Should I provide results from Google as well or verify the info with Google?

[10.11 pm, 16/12/2025] PPM 3: Based on the available medical literature, a **fracture hematoma is not described as a common or direct cause of hyponatremia in patients with hip fractures.** Instead, research consistently shows that hyponatremia in this population is a common, multifactorial issue, often present before or developing after the fracture due to other reasons.

Here is a summary of key evidence from the literature regarding hyponatremia and hip fractures:

| Study Focus | Key Findings on Prevalence & Cause | What It Says About Etiology |

| :--- | :--- | :--- |

| **Preoperative Hyponatremia** | Found **22.2%** of 419 elderly hip fracture patients had hyponatremia on admission vs. 1.8% in controls. | Suggests hyponatremia often **precedes** the fracture, acting as a risk factor for the fall. |

| **Systematic Review** | In geriatric trauma (mostly fractures), **19.3%** of patients were hyponatremic, linked to worse outcomes. | Hyponatremia is a significant **comorbidity** and marker of frailty in trauma patients. |

| **Epidemiological Link** | Reviews studies showing ~**19%** prevalence in hip fracture patients, a much higher rate than in the general population. | States the link is "not casual," with causes including medications (e.g., thiazides), dehydration, and SIADH. |

| **Expert Clinical Review** | Discusses hyponatremia as a common perioperative issue in frail hip fracture patients. | Explicitly describes it as **multifactorial**, stemming from **dehydration, chronic medications, and SIADH**—not the hematoma. |

### 🔍 Investigating Hyponatremia with a Concurrent Hb Drop

In the case you described, where hyponatremia develops alongside a falling hemoglobin level days after admission, the causes are likely interrelated but not due to the hematoma itself. A practical diagnostic approach would be:

1.  **Assess Volume Status & Common Causes**: The most likely scenario is **hypovolemia** from a combination of factors:

    *   **Dehydration**: Poor intake, insensible losses.

    *   **Blood Loss**: The drop in hemoglobin likely indicates ongoing bleeding, which could be from the fracture site or a gastrointestinal source.

    *   **Medications**: Review for diuretics (a very common cause) or other drugs affecting sodium/water balance.

    *   **SIADH (Syndrome of Inappropriate Antidiuretic Hormone)**: Common in hospitalized, stressed, elderly patients and can be triggered by pain, opioids, or pulmonary issues.

2.  **Order Key Diagnostic Tests**: To differentiate between the above causes, the following are essential:

    *   **Serum Osmolality**

    *   **Urine Osmolality**

    *   **Urine Sodium Concentration**

    *   **Assessment of volume status** (clinical examination, possibly with ultrasound).

3.  **Correct Cautiously**: The correction of hyponatremia must be carefully managed to avoid complications like osmotic demyelination. Guidelines recommend a controlled correction rate, typically not exceeding **6-12 mEq/L in the first 24 hours**.

In summary, while hyponatremia is a **very common comorbidity** in elderly hip fracture patients, the medical literature does not support the fracture hematoma as its cause. The clinical picture you describe strongly points toward **hypovolemia** (from dehydration and blood loss) or **SIADH** as the underlying mechanisms to investigate.

I hope this detailed analysis is helpful. If you can provide more details about the patient's volume status on examination or initial lab values, I could offer more specific thoughts on the likely differential diagnosis.

[8.17 am, 17/12/2025] PPM 1: 👏

[12:59 pm, 17/12/2025] PPM 4: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38396394/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524991/?utm_source=perplexity

[1:00 pm, 17/12/2025] PPM 4: Sir only two links were found....

[1:05 pm, 17/12/2025] PPM 1: Are any of these reporting similar cases where they are able to demonstrate causal association between a hematoma causing hyponatremia?

[1:28 pm, 17/12/2025] PPM 5: Would require a temporal association, with Na measurements before and after hematoma formation. Tried looking for it briefly but couldn't find sir.

[1:55 pm, 17/12/2025] PPM 4: No sir none of them or the other studies associated hyponatremia with hematoma directly.

75M PUO, hypotension, complicated UTI, post TURP 1 week, CKD 1yr, Diabetes 2yrs Telangana PaJR

 

10-12-2025

THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HISSIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SEIRES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINW COMMUNITY EPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.

[4.51 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: 75M diabetes since 2 years on oral hypoglycemics. CKD detected one year but same antidiabetic meds continued.

Lower urinary tract symptoms such as dribbling, burning 3 months

Urology diagnosed BPH and operated with TURP recently following which shifted to us with PUO and yesterday went into hypotension with BP falling to 60/40 but has picked up now with iv nor adrenaline and the patient is sitting up in bed as in the DP and sharing his story with me.

His urinary culture has shown something interesting on which I would like to have a comment from your LLM @PPM3

Had a transient Hematuria yesterday

His fever since admission. Check out the jumping WBC trends matching his hypotension inspite of the bland fever pattern

Strangely the urologist who operated on review writes that he did a VIU for urethral stricture while his intern written discharge EMR summary mentions he got a TURP for BPH! @PPM4 how common was this intern consultant dyscorrelation during your own past residency?

Yesterday's notes

And before that

[5.30 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 4: Majority of our departmental workflow would be on WhatsApp group both open source (main group with you) and closed group (unit specific) along with pajr group. So there would be 3 layered filtration and scrutiny of medical record which was fine tuned and presented in 2-4 pm seminar hall as a part of daily academics with seniors, juniors and interns. I agree there was some dyscorrelation happened in few cases due to lack of involvement of some interns in daily workflow, PGs exhaustion in academic and non academic works but 3 tier system including @PPM1, seniors like @PPM2 and PG residents helped to tailor the tentative discharge summaries earlier. 

Few interns were equipped and adapted to digital copy paste of summaries with improvisation based on daily progression of patient in hospital events, other simply copy pasted the messages in group sir. 

It’s PG residents duty to cross check and dispatch.

[7:27 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: @PPM3 @Meta AI how common is it to have e coli urine culture in vitro resistance to meropenem and most other drugs but sensitivity to nitrofurantoin and fosfomycin? Please share studies that have reported similar resistance patterns with perplexity styled urls

[7:27 pm, 10/12/2025] Meta AI: E. coli urine culture resistance to meropenem and other drugs, but sensitivity to nitrofurantoin and fosfomycin, is relatively common in multidrug-resistant (MDR) strains.

Studies have reported:

- High susceptibility to fosfomycin (99.25%) and nitrofurantoin (97%) among ESBL-producing E. coli isolates

- Low resistance rates to fosfomycin (0.97%) and nitrofurantoin (10.58%) in E. coli isolates

- Fosfomycin and nitrofurantoin are effective against MDR E. coli, including carbapenem-resistant strains¹ ² ³

Some relevant studies:

- "Efficacy of Fosfomycin against Extended Spectrum Beta-Lactamase-Producing Escherichia coli Isolated from Patient Urinary Cultures" ((link unavailable))

- "Fosfomycin versus meropenem in bacteraemic urinary tract infections caused by extended-spectrum -lactamase-producing Escherichia coli" ((link unavailable))

- "Evaluation of In-vitro Susceptibility of Multidrug-Resistant Urinary Escherichia Coli Isolates to Fosfomycin" ((link unavailable))

[7:30 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: @Meta AI all the ones that you linked are about fosfomycin sensitivity in meropenem or carbapenem resistance which I agree is well known and perhaps I should have framed the question differently. How common is nitrofurantoin sensitivity in carbpenem resistance?

[7:30 pm, 10/12/2025] Meta AI: Nitrofurantoin sensitivity in carbapenem-resistant E. coli is relatively common, with studies reporting:

- 84-90% susceptibility in carbapenem-resistant E. coli isolates

- 56% susceptibility in one study of carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae

- 37-75% susceptibility in different studies¹ ² ³

In contrast, carbapenem-resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae showed lower susceptibility rates (24-44%).

[7:30 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: @Meta AI I guess you have reached your limit of being just able to answer one question for the day?

[7:30 pm, 10/12/2025] Meta AI: lol, nope 😄. I'm good to go! Fire away! Was there something specific you wanted to know or discuss about nitrofurantoin sensitivity in carbapenem-resistant E. coli?

[7:32 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: @Meta AI yes share some URL reports from the literature around similar nitrofurantoin sensitivity in the presence of carbapenem resistance

[7:32 pm, 10/12/2025] Meta AI: Nitrofurantoin sensitivity in carbapenem-resistant E. coli is reported in several studies:

- 84-90% susceptibility in carbapenem-resistant E. coli isolates

- 56% susceptibility in one study of carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae

- 37-75% susceptibility in different studies

Some relevant studies:

- Susceptibility profile, resistance mechanisms & efficacy ratios of fosfomycin, nitrofurantoin & colistin for carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae causing urinary tract infections ((link unavailable))

- Nitrofurantoin resistance mechanism and fitness cost in Escherichia coli ((link unavailable))

- Global prevalence of nitrofurantoin-resistant uropathogenic Escherichia coli (UPEC) in humans: a systematic review and meta-analysis ((link unavailable))¹ ² ³

[7:41 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: @Meta AI thanks.

The first paper link from CMC Vellore was very useful 👏👏

Take away:

"Among E. coli, 98.9, 56 and 95 per cent isolates (of carbapenem resistant e coli) were susceptible to fosfomycin, nitrofurantoin and colistin, respectively.

https://ijmr.org.in/susceptibility-profile-resistance-mechanisms-efficacy-ratios-of-fosfomycin-nitrofurantoin-colistin-for-carbapenem-resistant-enterobacteriaceae-causing-urinary-tract-infections/

[7:41 pm, 10/12/2025] Meta AI: 👍 Great summary! Yeah, that study from CMC Vellore provides valuable insights into the susceptibility patterns of carbapenem-resistant E. coli. The high susceptibility to fosfomycin (98.9%) and colistin (95%) is expected, but the 56% susceptibility to nitrofurantoin is notable, considering it's an older antibiotic.

Given the increasing resistance to newer antibiotics, it's encouraging to see older drugs like nitrofurantoin and fosfomycin still holding up against MDR E. coli.

Do you think this data might influence empirical treatment choices for UTIs caused by carbapenem-resistant E. coli in certain settings?

[10:29 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 3: The resistance pattern you described—where E. coli is resistant to meropenem (a carbapenem) and most other drugs but remains susceptible to nitrofurantoin and fosfomycin—is *not uncommon*, especially among carbapenem-resistant (CR) and extended-spectrum β-lactamase (ESBL)-producing isolates. This occurs because these older urinary antiseptics have distinct mechanisms of action that are often unaffected by the common resistance mechanisms that confer resistance to β-lactams, fluoroquinolones, and aminoglycosides.

Below is a summary of key studies that report this specific susceptibility profile in urine cultures:

| Source | Year | Key Findings (Relevant to Your Question) |

|--------|------|------------------------------------------|

| *Prevalence and genomic insights of carbapenem‑resistant and ESBL‑producing MDR *E. coli in urinary tract infections** (Scientific Reports) | 2025 | Among 1,254 E. coli isolates, phenotypic resistance to *ertapenem* (a carbapenem) was 7.18%, while resistance to *fosfomycin* was only *2.23%* and to *nitrofurantoin* only *3.59%*[reference:0][reference:1]. This shows that even among carbapenem‑resistant strains, fosfomycin and nitrofurantoin remain active in the vast majority of cases. |

| *Susceptibility profile, resistance mechanisms & efficacy ratios of fosfomycin, nitrofurantoin & colistin for carbapenem‑resistant Enterobacteriaceae causing UTIs* (Amladi et al.) | 2019 | In carbapenem‑resistant E. coli urine isolates, *98.9%* were susceptible to *fosfomycin, **56%* to *nitrofurantoin, and 95% to colistin[reference:2]. The study concludes that fosfomycin is the drug of choice for CR *E. coli UTIs, followed by colistin. |

| *Susceptibility to Fosfomycin and Nitrofurantoin of ESBL‑Positive *E. coli Isolated From Urine of Pediatric Patients** (Park et al.) | 2023 | Among 108 ESBL‑positive E. coli urine isolates, *97.2%* were susceptible to *fosfomycin* and *96.3%* to *nitrofurantoin[reference:3]. Although this study focused on ESBL‑producing (not necessarily carbapenem‑resistant) isolates, it illustrates the high retained activity of both drugs against multidrug‑resistant *E. coli. |

| *Susceptibility Profile of Nitrofurantoin and Fosfomycin among Carbapenem‑resistant Enterobacteriaceae Isolates in UTI from a Tertiary Care Hospital* | 2023 | Among carbapenem‑resistant E. coli isolates, fosfomycin susceptibility rates were high (MICs *0.5–1 mg/L), while nitrofurantoin showed more variable results: only **21%* of isolates had low MICs (1–4 µg/mL), with many falling into the intermediate or resistant categories[reference:4][reference:5]. This highlights that fosfomycin is consistently active, whereas nitrofurantoin susceptibility may be lower in some CRE populations. |

In summary, while meropenem resistance in E. coli urine isolates is a serious concern, the *co‑susceptibility to nitrofurantoin and fosfomycin is a frequent and clinically important pattern. This makes these oral agents valuable alternatives for treating uncomplicated UTIs caused by multidrug‑resistant *E. coli. However, local susceptibility patterns can vary, and *routine susceptibility testing* for both drugs is recommended when facing carbapenem‑resistant isolates.

[10:32 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1: With this patient's renal failure , would it be advisable to start him on Nitrofurantoin? Is any renal dose modification possible for it?

[10:35 pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 3: Based on the laboratory data provided, *it is strongly advised NOT to start this patient on Nitrofurantoin.*

The patient is in *significant and worsening renal failure, making Nitrofurantoin both **ineffective and dangerously toxic* in this context. Here is the breakdown:

### 1. Assessment of Renal Function

The key indicator is the *serum creatinine*:

*   *6/12/25:* 8.60 mg/dL (Severely elevated)

*   *10/12/25:* 2.80 mg/dL (Still markedly elevated)

Even with the downward trend (which may indicate some improvement or the effect of dialysis), a creatinine of 2.80 mg/dL corresponds to an estimated Glomerular Filtration Rate (eGFR) of *well below 30 mL/min, placing the patient in **Stage 4 or 5 Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD)* or severe acute kidney injury.

###### 2. Why Nitrofurantoin is Contraindicated

*   *Mechanism & Excretion:* Nitrofurantoin is concentrated in the urine to be effective. In renal failure, it is *not adequately excreted* into the urinary tract, leading to *subtherapeutic levels at the site of infection*.

*   *Accumulation & Toxicity:* The drug accumulates in the blood, significantly increasing the risk of severe adverse effects, including:

    *   *Peripheral Neuropathy:* Often irreversible.

    *   *Hepatotoxicity.*

    *   *Pulmonary Reactions* (interstitial pneumonitis/fibrosis).

*   *Standard Contraindication:* All major guidelines (IDSA, FDA labeling) *contraindicate the use of nitrofurantoin when the creatinine clearance (CrCl) is < 30 mL/min* (some sources use a cutoff of < 60 mL/min for efficacy concerns). *This patient is well below that threshold.*

### 3. Is Renal Dose Modification Possible?

*No.* Unlike many antibiotics, nitrofurantoin *cannot be dose-adjusted for renal failure. The problem is not just systemic toxicity but **loss of efficacy*, as its action depends on urinary concentration. A lower dose would fail to achieve therapeutic levels in the urine while still risking systemic toxicity.

### 4. Recommended Alternative

Given the discussed resistance pattern (E. coli sensitive to fosfomycin) and this patient's renal status:

*   *Fosfomycin trometamol* is an *excellent and guideline-recommended oral alternative*.

*   It achieves high urinary concentrations with a *single 3g dose*.

*   It is *generally safe in renal impairment* (though caution is advised in severe impairment, it is not contraindicated like nitrofurantoin). Dose adjustment is not typically required.

*   Its unique mechanism makes it a reliable choice for multidrug-resistant, carbapenem-resistant E. coli UTIs.

### Conclusion & Strong Recommendation

*Do not administer nitrofurantoin to this patient.* Its use would be ineffective for treating a urinary tract infection and carries a high risk of causing severe, potentially irreversible neurological or pulmonary damage.

*The appropriate agent, based on the resistance pattern and renal function, is Fosfomycin.* Furthermore, given the complexity of this case (sepsis signs with high TLC, significant renal failure, anemia), management should ideally involve or be discussed with *Infectious Diseases and Nephrology specialists*.

*Disclaimer:* This analysis is based on the provided data. All treatment decisions must be made by the treating physician with full clinical context.

[11.17pm, 10/12/2025] PPM 1:👏

[4.57 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 1: Update yesterday:

Fever, Hypotension improved, inotropes withdrawn and discharged

[5.02 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 1: EMR summary from last admission and @PPM4 @PPM5 @PPM2 highlighting the intern copy pasted notes from some other EMR causing confusion with this patient's EMR as confirmed by the others involved in this patient's management:

DEPARTMENT OF UROLOGY

Pay Type: Credit (AROGYA SREE)

Age/Gender: 75 Years/Male

Address:

Discharge Type: Relieved

Admission Date: 20/11/2025 03:02 PM

Discharge Date: 27/11/2025 12:06 PM

Diagnosis

BENIGN PROSTATIC HYPERPLASIA

Case History and Clinical Findings

C/O - POOR STREAM SINCE 1 AND HALF MONTH

NO LOIN PAIN

DYSURIA +

NO HGPT

STREAM GOOD, NO LUTS

DM+, HTN +

NO PREVIOUS SURGERIES H/O PELURAL TAP

PATIENT IN RAPILIF D FOR 1 MONTH

PAST H/O - H/O PLEURAL TAP

PERSONAL HISTORY:

MARRIED, APPETITE: NORMAL, MIXED DIET, REGULAR BOWEL AND BLADDER

MOVEMENTS, NO KNOWN ALLERGIES

FAMILY HISTORY: NOT SIGNIFICANT

GENERAL EXAMINATION:

NO PALLOR, CYANOSIS, ICTERUS, CLUBBING OF FINGERS, LYMPHADENOPATHY, OEDEMA, MALNUTRITION AND DEHYDRATION

VITALS: TEMPERATURE AFEBRILE

PULSE:88BPM

RR:16 CPM

BP:130/80 MMHG

SPO2:99%

CVS: S1S2 HEARD

RS: NORMAL

CNS: NORMAL

PULMOLOGY REFERRAL I/V/O FITNESS: RX: CONTINUE SAME TREATMENT, 

SYP ASCORIL LS 10ML/PO/TTID

NEPHROLOGY REFERRAL I/V/O RAISED RFT AND PEDAL EDEMA: RX: TAB NODOSIS 500MG PO/BD, SALT RESTRICTION DIET

CARDIOLOGY REFERRAL I/V/O FITNESS: CAN UNDERGO PROCEDURE.

GM REFERRAL I/V/O FITNESS: RX: SYP CITRAIKA PO/TID IN GLASS OF WATER

Investigation

HEPATITIS- B SURFACE ANTIGEN (HBSAg) RAPID TEST- Negative ANTI HCV ANTIBODIES

(Rapid Test) RAPID- Non Reactive; HIV 1&2 RAPID TEST - NON REACTIVE

COMPLETE BLOOD PICTURE (CBP)HAEMOGLOBIN - 10.6gm/dl TOTAL COUNT- 4400cells/cumm RBC-3.62

PCV-30.4

PLATELET COUNT-1.3

RFT -

UREA - 68 mg/dl CREATININE - 2.60 mg/dl URIC ACID - 5.10mG/DL SODIUM - 137

mmol/L POTASSIUM - 4.4 mmol/L.CHLORIDE - 104mmol/L

LIVER FUNCTION TEST (LFT)

Total Bilurubin - 0.82mg/DL

Direct Bilurubin - 0.20mg/dl

SGOT (AST) - 19IU/L SGPT(ALT) - 16IU/L ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE - 790IU/L

COMPLETE URINE EXAMINATION (CUE) -

COLOUR - Pale yellow APPEARANCE - Clear REACTION -Acidic SP.GRAVITY - 1.0100 ALBUMIN -Nil SUGAR - Nil BILE SALTS - NILLBILE PIGMENTS -NILL

PUS CELLS - 5-6EPITHELIAL CELLS - 3-4RED BLOOD CELLS - 10-15CRYSTALS - Nil CASTS -

Nil AMORPHOUS DEPOSITS - Absent

FASTING BLOOD SUGAR - 81 PPBS; RBS - 99

APTT-31, BT-2.00, CT-4.3O, PT-15, INR-1.11

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BLOOD GROUPING: 'O' RH TYPING: POSITIVE

2D ECHO: CONCLUSION: MILD AR+, NO MR/PR, TRIVIAL TR+, NO PH

MILD LVH +, NO RWMA, NO AS/MS

GOOD LV SYSTOLIC NO LV CLOTSGRADE 1 DIASTOLIC DYSFUNCTION; NO PE

USG KUB IMPRESSION: GRADE III PROSTATOMEGALY, IRREGULAR URINARY BLADDER

WALL THICKNESS + -CYSTITIS, B/L MILD HYDROURETERONEPHROSIS, SIGNIFICANT PVR

Treatment Given (Enter only Generic Name)

OT NOTES:

TURP UNDER SA

UNDER SAP UNDER SA PATIENT POSITIONED IN LITHOTOMY WITH 17Fr CYSTOSCOPY

VISUALISED THE G-III PROSTATE WITH MEDIAN LOBE HYPERTROPHY. WITH TURP SET

VISUALISED PROSTATE RESECTION DONE AND CLIPS ARE REMOVED WITH ELIX.

IRRIGATION CONTINUE IMMEDIATE POST-OP UNEVENTFUL.

1. LIQUID DIET

2. IV FLUIDS @ 80ML

3. INJ MAGNEX 1.5 GM / IV / BD

4 . INJ PAN 40 MG / IV / OD

5. INJ PCM 1GM / IV /TID

6. INJ TRAMADOL 100 MG / IV /SOS

7. INJ ONDANSETRON 4MG / IV / SOS

8. T METFORMIN 500MG PO/PD

Advice at Discharge

T. TAXIM 200MG PO/BD

T PAN 40 MG PO/OD

T PCM 650 MG PO/TID

T. METFORMIN 500MG PO/OD

T. TELMISARTAN 40MG PO/OD

T MVT PO/OD

SYP UTI FYTE 15ML PO/BD

Follow Up

IN CASE OF ANY EMERGENCY IMMEDIATELY CONTACT YOUR CONSULTANT DOCTOR OR ATTEND EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.

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When to Obtain Urgent Care

AVOID SELF MEDICATION WITHOUT DOCTORS ADVICE, DONOT MISS MEDICATIONS. In case of Emergency or to speak to your treating FACULTY or For Appointments, Please Contact:

For Treatment Enquiries Patient/Attendant Declaration: - The medicines prescribed

and the advice regarding preventive aspects of care, when and how to obtain urgent care have been

explained to me in my own language

SIGNATURE OF PATIENT /ATTENDER

SIGNATURE OF PG/INTERNEE

SIGNATURE OF ADMINISTRATOR

SIGNATURE OF FACULTY

Discharge Date

Date:1/12/25

Ward: UROLOGY

[5.04 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 1:  EMR summary after yesterday's discharge:

DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL-MEDICINE

Age/Gender: 75 Years/Male

Address:

Discharge Type: Relieved

Admission Date: 06/12/2025 05:06 PM

Discharge Date: 08/12/2025 09:49 AM

Diagnosis

SEPTIC SHOCK (RESOLVED) SECONDARY UTI,? LEFT UPPER LOBE CAP

AKI ON CKD SECONDARY TO OBSTRUCTIVE UROPATHY

STRICTURE URETHRA, S/P VIU (1 WEEK AGO)

COPD/HYPERKALEMIA(RESOLVED)

K/C/O TYPE 2 DM, HTN

S/P 1 PINT PRBC TRANSFUSION (10-12-25)

Case History and Clinical Findings

C/O GENERALISED WEAKNESS SINCE 3 DAYS

HOPI: PATIENT WAS APPARENTLY ASYMPTOMATIC 3 DAYS BACK THEN PRESENTED WITH GENERALISED WEAKNESS INSIDIOUS IN ONSET GRADUALLY PROGRESSIVE

H/O LOSS OF APPETITE SINCE 3 DAYS

H/O ABDOMINAL PAIN (DIFFUSE) SQUEEZING TYPE

H/O FEVER. NO H/O NAUSEA, VOMITINGS. NO H/O INVOLUNTARY MOVEMENTS OF LIMB. NO H/O CHEST PAIN, PND, ORTHOPNEA, COUGH

PAST HISTORY: K/C/O T2DM SINCE 6 YEARS

K/C/O HTN SINCE 6 YEARS

PERSONAL HISTORY:

MARRIED, APPETITE LOST, MIXED DIET, IRREGULAR BOWEL AND FOLEY

CATHETERISATION INSITU, ADDICTIONS-REGULAR ALOCOHOLIC AND TOBACCO SMOKING,

NO KNOWN ALLERGIES

GENERAL EXAMINATION:

VITALS: TEMPERATURE: AFEBRILE, PR-120BPM, RR-19CPM, BP-100/60MMHG, GRBS-

376MG/DL

NO PALLOR, NO CYANOSIS, NO ICTERUS, NO CLUBBING OF FINGERS, NO

LYMPHADENOPATHY, NO PEDAL OEDEMA, NO MALNUTRITION, NO DEHYDRATION;

SYSTEMIC EXAMINATION:CVS-S1, S2 HEARD NO MURMURS, RS: - BAE+, CNS-NFND,

ABDOMEN-SOFT, NON TENDER, NO ORGANOMEGALY

OPHTHALMOLOGY REFFERAL WAS DONE ON 7/12/25 I/V/O FUNDOSCOPIC DIABETIC

RETINOPATHYIC CHANGES

IMPRESSION: NORMAL FUNDUS, DIABETIC RETINOPATHY CHANGES PRESENT

UROLOGY REFERRAL WAS DONE ON 8/12/25 I/V/O Ultrasound ABDOMEN SHOWING MILD

HYDROURETERO NEPHROSIS

Investigation

HEMOGRAM (6-12-25) HB -10.4, PCV 34.1, TLC-17100, RBC-3.82, PT-3.7(7-12-25) HB-9.9, PCV-

31.5, TLC-15700, RBC-3.6, PT-3.6

(9-12-25) HB-7.8, PCV-23.9, TLC-13200, RBC-2.8, PT-3.0 (10-12-25) HB-7.4, PCV-21.8, TLC-

33650, RBC-2.6, PT-2.8

(11-12-25) HB-8.8, PCV-25.4, TLC-28100, RBC-3.0, PT-2.6 (12-12-25) HB-8.5, PCV-26.2, TLC-

21400, RBC-3.1, PT-2.9

RBS-330; HBA1C-7.5%

CUE (7-12-25): ALB+++, SUGAR++, PUS CELLS 4-5, EPI CELLS 3-4, RBC 9-10 (9-12-25):

ALB++, SUGAR-NIL, PUS CELLS-PLENTY, EPI CELLS 1-2, RBC 1-2

RFT (6-12-25) Urea-62mg/dl, Cr-2.60mg/dl, Na-132mmol/L, K-5.6mmol/L, Cl-99mmol/L

RFT (7-12-25) Urea-67.20mg/dl, Cr-2.40mg/dl, Na-135mmol/L, K-4.9mmol/L, Cl-99mmol/L

RFT (8-12-25) Urea-69mg/dl, Cr-2.60mg/dl, Na-136mmol/L, K-4.7mmol/L, Cl-98mmol/L

RFT (9-12-25) Urea-70mg/dl, Cr-2.40mg/dl, Na-136mmol/L,K-4.5mmol/L,Cl-99mmol/L

RFT (10-12-25) Urea-81mg/dl, Cr-2.80mg/dl, Na-137mmol/L, K-4.3mmol/L, Cl-97mmol/L

LFT (6-12-2025) TB-0.71, DB-0.19, SGOT-18, SGPT -17, ALP-711, TP-6.8, ALB-3.8, GLOB-3.00, A/G -1.27

ABG (6-12-2025) PH:7.268 PCO2:30.8 PO2:103 HCO3:14.7 (7-12-2025) PH:7.268 PCO2:33.5

PO2:33 HCO3:14.8

(10-12-2025) PH:7.241 PCO2:34.3 PO2:53.2 HCO3:14.2

(7/12/25) SERUM CALCIUM - 1.04; SERUM OSMOLARITY - 299.10

UPCR (7-12-2025): URINARY Na-198 URINARY K-63 URINARY Cl-132

URINE CULTURE & SENSITIVITY (8-12-25): PLENTY OF PUS CELLS SEEN.E COLI COLONY

COUNT-10^5 CFU/ML SENSITIVE ONLY TO NITROFURANTOIN AND FOSFOMYCINE

BLOOD LACTATE (10-12-25): 14.2MG/DL

USG WAS DONE ON 6-12-25 IMPRESSION: B/L MILD HYDROURETERO NEPHROSIS, GRADE II PROSTATOMEGALY

2D ECHO (9-12-25): TRIVIAL MR+, MILD TR+ WITH PAH(EF=60%). NO RWMA, MILD LVH+, NO AS/MS, NO LV CLOT. GOOD LV SYSTOLIC FUNCTION. GRADE I DIASTOLIC DYSFUNCTION+, NO PE

Treatment Given (Enter only Generic Name)

1. STRICT DIABETIC DIET

2. IV FLUIDS NS AT 50ML/HR

3. INJ MONOCEF 2GM IV/STAT FOR 3DAYS

4. INJ VANCOMYCIN 1GM IV/BD F/B1GM IV/ODFOR 3DAYS

5. TAB TELMA 40MG PO/OD

6. TAB AMLODIPINE 10MG PO/OD

7. INJ PAN 40MG IV/OD

8. INJ NEOMOL 1GM IV/SOS

9. NORAD 2AMP IN 50ML NS AT 2ML/HR FOR 1.5DAYS

10. INJ HAI S/C

11. TAB DOLO 650MG PO/SOS

12. INJ PCM 1GM IV/STAT

13. FOSFOMYCIN 1 SACHET IN 1 GLASS OF WATER ON ALTERNATE DAYS

14. NEB DUOLIN 6TH HRLY, BUDECORT 8TH HRLY

Advice at Discharge

1. FOSFOMYCIN 1 SACHET(3GMS) IN 1 GLASS OF WATER ON ALTERNATE DAYS FOR 3

WEEKS

2. CINOD 10MG PO/OD FOR 2 WEEKS

3.INJ HAI S/C TID 8UNITS--8UNITS--8UNITS

4.TAB DOLO 650MG PO/SOS

5. TAB MVT PO/OD

6. STRICT DIABETIC DIET

Follow Up

REVIEW TO GM OPD AFTER 1 WEEK/SOS

When to Obtain Urgent Care

IN CASE OF ANY EMERGENCY IMMEDIATELY CONTACT YOUR CONSULTANT DOCTOR OR

ATTEND EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.

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Preventive Care

AVOID SELF MEDICATION WITHOUT DOCTORS ADVICE, DONOT MISS MEDICATIONS. In case of Emergency or to speak to your treating FACULTY or For Appointments, Please Contact:

For Treatment Enquiries Patient/Attendant Declaration: - The medicines prescribed

and the advice regarding preventive aspects of care, when and how to obtain urgent care have been

explained to me in my own language

SIGNATURE OF PATIENT /ATTENDER

SIGNATURE OF PG/INTERNEE

SIGNATURE OF ADMINISTRATOR

SIGNATURE OF FACULTY

Discharge Date

Date:12-12-25 Ward: MMW Unit:II

[5:05 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: Discharged with just Actrapid?

[5:08 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: Yes sir, his requirement while in hospital were in that range itself

[6:11 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: Okay. Why not a premix insulin?

[6:20 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: We usually prefer premix insulin when requirement of actrapid is too high sir (when blood glucose levels are not controlled with regular, we go for intermediate)

[6:21 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: Okay. Don't you think some form of basal insulin would be required?

[6:24 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: Logically yes sir, but I was taught and we practice like this 

1. Start with bolus insulin that is actrapid.

If premeal blood sugars are not controlled 

2. Add intermediate acting that is nph

[6:27 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: I have never prescribed 

1. Rapid 

2. ⁠long acting

3. ⁠ultra long acting insulins

I only learnt to manage only with short acting and intermediate

Sir

[6:27 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: Also these are not available here in our hospital at low cost

[6:28 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: Interesting. I think a commoner global practice is to prescribe either a premix or a once daily long acting along with oral meds.

[6:29 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: We do prescribe premix when we get an idea of how much hai and nph the pt is requiring sir

[6:29 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: I see. Was cost the only reason not to prescribe these?

[6:29 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: And availability sir

[6:30 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: A general operating principle is to calculate a total daily dose at 0.5 x body weight or 0.2x body weight for long/intermediate acting alone.

[6:31 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: The market operates on supply demand. If doctors generate demand, the supply will match within a day.

[6:31 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: Yes sir

[6:32 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: Will try talking to pharmacist or administrative dept sir

[6:34 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 2: Hope patient has been made aware of hypo awareness and how to recognise one. And how to manage one

[6:34 pm, 12/12/2025] PPM 5: Yes sir, counselled them