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[[30-09-2025 11.36] PPM 1: Initial handwritten history of events
Initial ECG
Another handwritten detail to his smoking history
Handwritten data sheet of assessment and plan
[30-09-2025 11.47] PPM 1: @PPM3 please update his current status whenever you are free
[30-09-2025 14.28] PPM 3: Ok sir
[30-09-2025 17.03] PPM 3: A moment sir
*Subjective complaints*:pain left side of the chest(relatively decreased compared to yesterday)
Fever-1 episode yesterday night
Cough without expectoration
*Objective*: Tenderness present,at the left side of the chest (patient fell down and injured himself during the seizure episode)
Grbs values:
Yesterday insulin infusion was tapered bridging was done with nph
8AM:216 8 U HAI,4 U NPH
10AM:279
12 PM:216
3 PM:174 8 U HAI
Assessment:
Pain at left side of chest:chest xray ap view, showing 8,9 rib fracture
Repeat ecg:as the previous ecg has vpc's
Today's ecg:??atrial ectopics
Plan: strapping of chest
continuing antiepileptics, insulin hai+nph subcutaneously
Started beta blocker:bisoprolol 2.5mg po/od
Inj.augmentin 1.2 gm iv/bd
Syrup ascoryl ls 15 ml po/tid
Uncertainties:
Why HHS?
Why acidosis?
Or for its contribution towards the extracellular K+ accumulation?
[30-09-2025 20.54] PPM 1: What could be the possible reasons for this 50M patient with metabolic syndrome phenotype, developing hyperosmolar hyperglycemic state for the first time and how do we explain his acidosis in presence of normal serum creatinine, normal lactate? @Meta AI @PPM5
[30-09-2025 20.54] Meta AI: This is a complex clinical case involving multiple interconnected issues. Here's a breakdown of the uncertainties you raised regarding the patient's presentation:
[30-09-2025 20.54] Meta AI: This is a complex clinical case involving multiple interconnected issues. Here's a breakdown of the uncertainties you raised regarding the patient's presentation:
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### 1. Why HHS (Hyperosmolar Hyperglycemic State)?
HHS typically occurs in the setting of severe hyperglycemia, dehydration, and insulin deficiency without significant ketosis. Several potential contributing factors for this 50M patient could include:
- *Stress-induced hyperglycemia:* The seizure episode, fall, and trauma (rib fractures) could have led to a significant stress response, causing a surge in counter-regulatory hormones (catecholamines, cortisol, glucagon). This could precipitate HHS in predisposed individuals.
- *Undiagnosed or poorly controlled diabetes:* If this patient has metabolic syndrome, he may have underlying diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance. A triggering event (e.g., infection, trauma, or seizure) might have unmasked or worsened his hyperglycemia.
- *Infection:* Fever and the initiation of antibiotics (augmentin) suggest a possible underlying infection, which is a common precipitant of HHS.
- *Medication-induced hyperglycemia:* If the patient was previously on steroids or other medications that impair glucose tolerance, they could have contributed to the HHS development.
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### 2. Why Acidosis with Normal Creatinine and Lactate?
The presence of acidosis in HHS is less common but can occur. Possible explanations include:
- *Mixed acid-base disorders:*
- *Renal tubular acidosis (RTA):* A non-anion gap metabolic acidosis could occur due to tubular dysfunction, even if serum creatinine is normal.
- *Ketoacidosis:* Mild or early diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) can coexist with HHS, especially in a patient with metabolic syndrome. This could explain the acidosis despite the absence of significant ketosis (which may not yet be clinically apparent).
- *Hyperchloremic acidosis:* Rehydration therapy or fluid shifts can cause a non-anion gap metabolic acidosis.
- *Sepsis-related acidosis:* If the patient has an infection (e.g., pneumonia or another source), sepsis could lead to metabolic acidosis despite normal lactate levels early on.
- *Uremia or unmeasured toxins:* Though creatinine is normal, uremia or other toxins (e.g., alcohols, salicylates) might contribute to a high anion gap metabolic acidosis.
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### Key Considerations for Workup and Management:
1. *Confirm the type of acidosis:*
- Check arterial blood gas (ABG) to confirm the pH, bicarbonate, and anion gap.
- Evaluate for ketones (serum/urine) to rule out concomitant DKA.
- Consider a serum osmolality gap to assess for unmeasured osmoles.
2. *Rule out infection:*
- Investigate the fever further (e.g., chest imaging, blood cultures) to rule out pneumonia or sepsis.
3. *Monitor and manage HHS:*
- Ensure adequate hydration, electrolyte correction, and careful insulin titration to avoid rapid shifts in osmolality.
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What additional labs or findings would you say are most critical to clarify next?
[[30-09-2025 21.01] PPM 1: @PPM6 any idea why we started him on iv magnesium sulphate?[30-09-2025 21.01] PPM 6: Today morning ECG ..he had atrial bigeminy sir.
[30-09-2025 21.36] PPM 4: This is a complex clinical scenario. The development of a first-time Hyperosmolar Hyperglycemic State (HHS) in a patient with a metabolic syndrome phenotype can be triggered by several factors, and the presence of acidosis despite normal lactate and creatinine levels points toward specific underlying mechanisms.
The table below outlines the most common precipitating factors for a first-time HHS episode.
| Potential Precipitant | Examples & Mechanisms | Relevance to Metabolic Syndrome & First-Time HHS |
| :--- | :--- | :--- |
| **Infection** | Pneumonia, UTI, sepsis. Stress from infection increases counter-regulatory hormones, worsening hyperglycemia. | Most common trigger (50-60% of cases); can unmask previously undiagnosed glucose intolerance. |
| **Certain Medications** | Corticosteroids, thiazide diuretics, some antipsychotics. Can impair carbohydrate metabolism or cause dehydration. | Patients with metabolic syndrome often have conditions (e.g., hypertension) requiring these drugs, increasing risk. |
| **Undiagnosed Type 2 Diabetes** | HHS can be the initial presentation in patients with unknown or poorly managed diabetes. | Metabolic syndrome is a major risk factor for Type 2 Diabetes; HHS may be its first dramatic manifestation. |
| **Cardiovascular Events** | Myocardial infarction, stroke. Physical stress leads to release of stress hormones that spike blood glucose. | Patients with metabolic syndrome have elevated risk for these underlying events. |
| **Inadequate Fluid Intake** | Restricted access to water, impaired thirst, or altered mental status. Reduces the kidney's ability to excrete excess glucose. | Critical co-factor; even without other triggers, poor intake can precipitate HHS in setting of hyperglycemia. |
### 🩺 Explaining the Acidosis with Normal Lactate and Creatinine
The presence of acidosis in HHS, when the classic causes like lactic acidosis (normal lactate) or uremic acidosis (normal creatinine) have been ruled out, can be explained by several other factors:
- **Mild Ketosis**: HHS is defined by the **absence of *significant* ketoacidosis**, but trace to small amounts of ketones may be present. The residual insulin in a patient with metabolic syndrome phenotype is usually enough to suppress ketogenesis, but not always completely. A mild ketosis, combined with a slight elevation in the anion gap, could explain the acidosis without a high lactate level.
- **Hyperchloremic Metabolic Acidosis**: This is a non-anion gap acidosis. During the osmotic diuresis of HHS, patients lose sodium, potassium, and water, but also **chloride** in excess of bicarbonate. This can lead to a normal anion gap metabolic acidosis. Furthermore, as the hyperglycemia is treated with IV fluids, the dilution of serum bicarbonate and the infusion of chloride-containing fluids (e.g., normal saline) can perpetuate or even cause a hyperchloremic acidosis.
- **Other Concurrent Acid-Base Disorders**: The patient might have a mixed disorder. For instance, a mild metabolic acidosis from ketosis could be partially masked by a concurrent metabolic alkalosis caused by factors like vomiting or diuretic use, leading to a confusing overall picture.
To pinpoint the exact cause in this patient, the following diagnostic steps would be crucial:
- **Measure Serum Ketones**: A blood test for **beta-hydroxybutyrate** is more reliable than urine ketones. A level above 3.0 mmol/L suggests diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA), but a mild elevation (e.g., 1.0-3.0 mmol/L) could explain the acidosis in an HHS picture.
- **Analyze the Acid-Base Profile**: Calculate the **anion gap** and compare it with the serum bicarbonate level. This will help distinguish between an anion-gap metabolic acidosis (suggesting ketosis or other unmeasured acids) and a non-anion gap metabolic acidosis (suggesting hyperchloremic acidosis).
- **Review All Medications**: Scrutinize the patient's medication list for any drugs that could cause acidosis or impair kidney function, even if the serum creatinine is currently normal.
I hope this detailed explanation is helpful for your clinical assessment. If you can provide the results of the anion gap and serum ketone tests, a more specific interpretation would be possible.
[30-09-2025 22.34] PPM 1: @PPM3 what was his anion gap?
[30-09-2025 22.36] PPM 5: I couldn't get access to his history as I am new in this group, hope you upload his history again, please
[30-09-2025 22.36] PPM 1: @Meta AI @PPM5 please share a single best RCT on the efficacy of magnesium sulphate improving outcomes in patients with atrial bigeminy and share it's data in a PICO format taking care to avoid percentages and mention absolute values only along with easily searchable references for the same
[30-09-2025 22.36] Meta AI: Currently, there is no high-quality randomized controlled trial (RCT) specifically focused on the efficacy of magnesium sulfate in improving outcomes in patients with atrial bigeminy alone. Most research on magnesium sulfate pertains to its use in broader arrhythmia contexts, such as atrial fibrillation, torsades de pointes, or ventricular arrhythmias. Atrial bigeminy is often a benign condition, and studies tend to focus on broader arrhythmia populations rather than isolating this specific pattern.
That being said, magnesium sulfate is sometimes used empirically in arrhythmia management due to its role in stabilizing cardiac membranes. If you'd like, I can help you find related studies in broader arrhythmia contexts. Would you like me to summarize findings for magnesium sulfate in arrhythmias more generally?
[30-09-2025 22.37] PPM 3: 38 sir on presentation
[30-09-2025 22.37] PPM 1: Very high! @Meta AI yes
[30-09-2025 22.38] Meta AI: Here’s a summary of findings from studies on magnesium sulfate in broader arrhythmia contexts:1. *Population*: Patients with various arrhythmias, including atrial fibrillation (AF), ventricular arrhythmias, and torsades de pointes.
2. *Intervention*: Intravenous magnesium sulfate administration.
3. *Comparison*: Placebo or standard antiarrhythmic therapy.
4. *Outcome*: Reduction in arrhythmia episodes, improved rhythm control, and prevention of arrhythmia recurrence.
*Key Evidence*:
- A study by Moran et al. (1995) found magnesium sulfate to be effective in terminating torsades de pointes and preventing recurrence. In patients with AF, magnesium sulfate improved the success rate of cardioversion when used alongside antiarrhythmic drugs.
- In a broader meta-analysis (Shiga et al., 2004), magnesium infusion reduced the incidence of postoperative AF in cardiac surgery patients compared to placebo.
*Absolute Data Example*:
- In postoperative AF prevention, magnesium therapy reduced AF incidence from 33 per 100 patients (placebo) to 18 per 100 patients (magnesium group), showing an absolute reduction of 15 cases per 100 patients.
*Reference*:
- Shiga T, Wajima Z, Inoue T, Ogawa R. Magnesium prophylaxis for arrhythmias after cardiac surgery: a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. _Am J Med_. 2004;117(5):325-333. DOI:10.1016/j.amjmed.2004.03.032
Would you like more focused information on a specific arrhythmia or magnesium dosage details?
[30-09-2025 22.39] PPM 1: @Meta AI please share a PICO analysis on a single RCT
[30-09-2025 22.39] Meta AI: Here is a PICO analysis for the *LOMAGHI trial*,¹ a specific RCT investigating magnesium sulfate in atrial fibrillation:
### PICO Analysis:
- *Population*: 450 adult patients with rapid atrial fibrillation (AF) in the emergency department, heart rate >120 bpm, and not candidates for electrical cardioversion. Exclusions included hypotension (SBP <90 mmHg), renal failure, acute MI, CHF (NYHA Class 3/4), or other unstable conditions.
- Group distribution:
- High-dose magnesium sulfate (9g): 153 patients
- Low-dose magnesium sulfate (4.5g): 148 patients
- Placebo: 149 patients
- *Intervention*: Intravenous magnesium sulfate (either 4.5g or 9g in 100mL normal saline over 30 minutes) as an adjunct to standard rate-control therapy (calcium channel blockers, beta blockers, or digoxin).
- *Comparison*: Placebo (100mL normal saline) with standard AF rate-control therapy.
- *Outcome*:
- *Therapeutic response rate at 24 hours*:
- High-dose Mg: 94.1% (144/153 patients)
- Low-dose Mg: 97.9% (145/148 patients)
- Placebo: 83.3% (124/149 patients)
- *Rhythm control (conversion to sinus rhythm at 24 hours)*:
- High-dose Mg: 13.0% (20/153 patients)
- Low-dose Mg: 22.9% (34/148 patients)
- Placebo: 10.7% (16/149 patients)
- *Resolution time (heart rate <110 bpm)*:
- High-dose Mg: 5.2 ± 2.0 hours
- Low-dose Mg: 6.1 ± 1.9 hours
- Placebo: 8.4 ± 2.5 hours
- *Adverse effects*:
- High-dose Mg: 21 total events (18 flushing, 2 hypotension, 1 bradycardia)
- Low-dose Mg: 8 total events (6 flushing, 1 hypotension, 1 bradycardia)
- Placebo: 3 total events
### Conclusion:
Low-dose magnesium sulfate (4.5g) was as effective as high-dose (9g) in achieving rate control but had fewer adverse effects. Both magnesium doses outperformed placebo in therapeutic response and rhythm control.
*Reference*:
- Bouida W, et al. "Low-dose magnesium sulfate versus high-dose in early management of rapid atrial fibrillation: Randomized controlled double-blind study." _Acad Emerg Med_, 2018. PMID: 30025177.
Would you like further details about magnesium dosing protocols or other arrhythmia contexts?
[30-09-2025 22.40] PPM 5: I have looked into your request, but the search results do not contain a randomized controlled trial (RCT) that specifically investigates magnesium sulphate for **atrial bigeminy**. The available high-quality studies focus on its use in related conditions like atrial fibrillation.
### 🎓 The Closest Available Evidence
The most relevant RCT identified examines magnesium sulfate for **rapid atrial fibrillation**, which is a different arrhythmia. Here is the data from that study in PICO format:
- **P** (Population): 199 adult emergency department patients with rapid atrial fibrillation.
- **I** (Intervention): Intravenous magnesium sulfate (a 2.5 g bolus over 20 minutes, followed by a 2.5 g infusion over 2 hours) in addition to usual care. The most commonly used antiarrhythmic in the usual care group was digoxin.
- **C** (Comparison): Placebo infusion in addition to usual care.
- **O** (Outcomes):
- **Rate Control**: 63 of 97 patients in the magnesium group achieved a heart rate of less than 100 beats/min, compared to 32 of 93 patients in the placebo group.
- **Rhythm Conversion**: 25 of 94 patients in the magnesium group converted to sinus rhythm, compared to 11 of 91 patients in the placebo group.
- **Adverse Events**: 14 of 95 patients in the magnesium group experienced an adverse event, compared to 5 of 92 patients in the placebo group.
### 💡 Why Specific Evidence is Scarce
The lack of direct evidence for atrial bigeminy is likely because:
- **Clinical Focus is Different**: Atrial bigeminy is often considered a benign rhythm that may not require aggressive intervention unless it is causing significant symptoms. Research efforts are therefore directed toward more consequential arrhythmias like atrial fibrillation or ventricular bigeminy.
- **Pathophysiology Differs**: The mechanisms that initiate and sustain atrial bigeminy are different from those in atrial fibrillation, so treatment responses may not be comparable.
### 🔍 How to Find More Information
To continue your search for more targeted evidence, you could:
- **Consult Specialized Databases**: Search clinicaltrials.gov for any ongoing or completed trials on the topic.
- **Systematic Search**: Conduct a systematic search on platforms like PubMed or Cochrane Library using a broader search strategy, such as ("magnesium" AND "bigeminy") or ("magnesium" AND "premature atrial complex").
- **Review Guidelines**: Check clinical practice guidelines from cardiology associations for any mentions of managing frequent atrial ectopy or bigeminy.
I hope this information is helpful for your work. If you have a different clinical scenario in mind, please feel free to ask, and I can search again.
Introduction
Atrial fibrillation (AF) is a prevalent and significant complication following various cardiac procedures, including coronary artery bypass grafting (CABG) and other cardiac surgeries. Its occurrence can lead to increased morbidity and healthcare resource utilization. Given the association between magnesium levels and AF, several studies have explored the efficacy of magnesium sulfate (MgSO4) as a prophylactic or therapeutic agent in preventing and managing AF during the perioperative period. This literature review synthesizes findings from recent randomized controlled trials evaluating the role of magnesium sulfate in the context of atrial arrhythmias, particularly focusing on AF and its implications for clinical practice.
Key Insights
Efficacy of Magnesium Infusion: Continuous infusion of magnesium sulfate has shown effectiveness in reducing the incidence of postoperative atrial fibrillation (POAF). For instance, a study demonstrated a marked reduction in the incidence of POAF in patients undergoing off-pump CABG who received magnesium infusion compared to a control group (19.2% versus 1.9%) 1. This suggests that maintaining adequate magnesium levels can be a critical strategy in preventing AF after cardiac surgery.
Variation in Dosage: Different studies have reported varied outcomes based on the dosage of magnesium administered. One trial investigated the use of low dose versus high dose of magnesium sulfate in patients with rapid AF managed in emergency settings. They found significant therapeutic responses with both dosages, but high doses were associated with more side effects 6. This highlights the need for careful consideration of dosage to balance effectiveness and safety.
Adjunctive Therapy in Rate Control: Magnesium sulfate has been explored as an adjunctive therapy for managing rapid ventricular rates in patients with AF. Randomized controlled trials indicated that magnesium improved heart rate control and increased the likelihood of conversion to sinus rhythm, enhancing the overall management of patients in an emergency department setting 78. However, some studies found no significant difference in AF conversion rates when magnesium was compared to placebo, indicating mixed results regarding its efficacy as a standalone treatment 9.
Postoperative Management: The timing and method of magnesium administration are paramount. A study emphasized the benefit of pre-injection of magnesium sulfate prior to administering antiarrhythmic drugs, which significantly enhanced the efficacy of ibutilide for converting typical atrial flutter 10. This approach could potentially be adapted for broader use in AF management post-surgery.
Safety and Adverse Effects: While magnesium sulfate appears to be effective in reducing AF incidence, concerns regarding safety and potential adverse effects remain. For example, a study found a higher incidence of minor side effects in patients treated with higher doses of magnesium, necessitating a careful approach to supplementation 56.
Conclusion
Magnesium sulfate shows promise as a valuable intervention in the prevention and management of atrial fibrillation, particularly within the postoperative setting of cardiac surgeries. The evidence underscores its role in reducing AF incidence, though the effectiveness may vary with dosage and administration timing. Clinicians must weigh the benefits of magnesium supplementation against the potential for adverse effects. Future research should focus on optimizing administration protocols and exploring the synergistic effects of magnesium with other therapeutic agents to improve patient outcomes related to atrial arrhythmias in the cardiac surgical population. Combining magnesium with other strategies may offer a holistic approach to managing AF, thereby enhancing recovery and minimizing complications after cardiac procedures.
Reference
[1] The Effect of Continuous Magnesium Infusion to Prevent Postoperative Atrial Fibrillation in Patients Undergoing Off-Pump Coronary Artery Bypass Grafting.
[2] Role of del Nido Cardioplegia Solution in Prolonged Aortic Cross-clamp Cardiac Surgery: A Prospective Study.
[3] Magnesium Sulfate: an adjunctive therapy in the first hour of management of rapid atrial fibrillation in the emergency department.
[4] Continuous Magnesium Infusion to Prevent Atrial Fibrillation After Cardiac Surgery: A Sequential Matched Case-Controlled Pilot Study.
[5] Low-dose Magnesium Sulfate Versus High Dose in the Early Management of Rapid Atrial Fibrillation: Randomized Controlled Double-blind Study (LOMAGHI Study).
[6] Magnesium Sulfate Reduces Incidence of Atrial Fibrillation after Coronary Arterial Bypass Surgery: What Is the Proper Dose? A Randomized Trial.
[7] A double-blind randomized clinical trial comparing different doses of magnesium in cardioplegic solution for prevention of atrial fibrillation after coronary artery bypass graft surgery.
[8] Warm-blood cardioplegia with low or high magnesium for coronary bypass surgery: a randomised controlled trial.
[9] Prophylactic intravenous magnesium sulphate in addition to oral {beta}-blockade does not prevent atrial arrhythmias after coronary artery or valvular heart surgery: a randomized, controlled trial.
[10] Role of magnesium in preventing post-operative atrial fibrillation after coronary artery bypass surgery.
[11] Magnesium sulfate versus placebo for paroxysmal atrial fibrillation: a randomized clinical trial.
[12] Pre-injection of magnesium sulfate enhances the efficacy of ibutilide for the conversion of typical but not of atypical persistent atrial flutter.
[13] Impact of magnesium sulfate on serum magnesium concentrations and intracellular electrolyte concentrations among patients undergoing radio frequency catheter ablation.
[14] Effect of single dose magnesium on arrhythmias in patients undergoing coronary artery bypass surgery.
[15] Supplementation of magnesium to warm blood hyperkalemic cardioplegia for the prevention of atrial fibrillation after coronary artery bypass grafting.
[16] Effect of low-dose amiodarone and magnesium combination on atrial fibrillation after coronary artery surgery.
[17] A randomized controlled trial of magnesium sulfate, in addition to usual care, for rate control in atrial fibrillation.
[18] Adjunctive intravenous magnesium to reduce toxicity and enhance efficacy of class III antiarrhythmic agents.
[19] Minimally-diluted blood cardioplegia supplemented with potassium and magnesium for combination of 'initial, continuous and intermittent bolus' administration.
[20] The efficacy of supplemental magnesium in reducing atrial fibrillation after coronary artery bypass grafting.[PubMed ai]
[02-10-2025 16.15] PPM 3: 1/10/25
[02-10-2025 22.00] PPM 1: Any soap updates?
Yes the case report will be prepared soon.
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