[08/09, 09:08] cm: Can we convert this from voice to text?
[08/09, 11:29] hu1: By evening I send you sir🙏
[08/09, 11:47] cm: Using perplexity
Message 1: The message explains how music therapy, tailored to individual astrological charts and chakras, can aid healing by restoring body rhythms and boosting recovery in hospitals using ragas and Vedic chants. It emphasizes personalized sound therapy for improving physical and spiritual well-being alongside medical treatment. Studies confirm music therapy reduces pain, stress, and anxiety, supporting patient recovery effectively. 🎶
[08/09, 11:50] hu1: Yes 😊. I can explain in detail but the outcome is perfect sir 👍
[08/09, 11:51] hu1: Plz convert it with help of AI.I am not aware of tech stuff🙏.
[08/09, 11:52] hu1: I will surely put it in text form slowly. 👍
[08/09, 11:54] cm: Yes put it in text beyond what AI will share.
[08/09, 11:54] cm: Nothing much tech from my end. I just What's apped your voice file to perplexity and it immediately made it into text
[08/09, 11:55] cm: Message 2
The message shares personal experience and research showing that listening to Veena music, especially specific ragas, can promote health benefits like aiding normal delivery in pregnant women and enhancing personality development. The Veena’s structure closely resembles the human body, making its vibrations therapeutically effective, a view supported by traditional and scientific insights. Multiple studies confirm music therapy’s role in reducing stress and improving emotional well-being.
[08/09, 11:56] hu1: This point is hardly known and implemented sir.
[08/09, 11:57] cm: Message 3
The message highlights that music therapy helps stroke patients before and after surgery by calming and improving recovery, especially with soothing, personalized music instead of stressful TV content. Research confirms music therapy supports neuroplasticity, motor skills, mood, and cognitive recovery after stroke. So, using gentle music in hospitals benefits patients’ healing more than usual entertainment options. 🎵
[08/09, 11:57] hu1: Instrumental music is much effective. We give mix of chants, instrumental music, slokas, songs too. All classical based 👍
[08/09, 11:58] hu1: Perfect.
[08/09, 11:59] hu1: Did u listen to the small audio workshop I put in channel?? It's all in English 👍
[08/09, 12:02] cm: I don't have a problem with Telugu. Listening can be very time consuming while text is much faster
[08/09, 12:03] cm: Message 4
This message highlights Ayurveda’s view that diet plays a key role in healing, especially tailored to one’s dosha type like Kapha, with light, sattvic foods aiding recovery. It suggests personalized food habits can help balance body energies and support stroke or illness recovery. Ayurvedic research supports diet, meditation, and Panchakarma therapies for improving circulation and nerve health in patients.
[08/09, 12:06] hu1: Food, sacred geometry, external and internal music according to individual music astro can be used for customizing music therapy for an individual. Likewise generic music also can tailored 👍.
[08/09, 12:06] cm: Message 5
This message talks about how yogis believe true enlightenment leads to healing powers, with music therapy, Ayurveda, and sacred geometry playing key roles in holistic healing. It stresses an integrated approach combining ancient wisdom, individual care, and environment for better health outcomes. Yoga philosophy’s five kleshas (obstacles) also explain suffering and spiritual growth, highlighting the importance of clearing these for true healing and clarity.
[08/09, 12:07] cm: Read all the messages and I essentially agree and am aware of the usefulness of these approaches.
Would you like me to add you to our PaJR patient groups where we can slowly try it on them?
Do let me know what would be your preferred way to deliver these interventions to our patients
[08/09, 12:11] hu1: Allopathy, ayurveda, astronomy, properly integrated can help speedy recovery of patients. The toxins of medications dosages would reduce when you chant a music engine give medication. So harmful aspects of allopathy could be surely reduced with ancient wisdom. Music therapy is only one without side effects . Either music works or it may not work as expected but doesn't carry any side effects. BUT surely music does it's magic and it's no waste of time efforts.
[08/09, 12:17] hu1: My mother with 3 heart blockages lived 20 years without a second stroke without bypass surgery sir just with yoga by an eminent doctor who is no more 👍
[08/09, 12:17] cm: Shall we start now?
I'll first add you to the individual patient group and you assess the patient's requirements based on the data available in the patient's case report links in the description box and then we can discuss your evaluation and therapeutic plan for the patient here?
[08/09, 12:18] cm: Same with my father. He was advisable bypass which he could get free of cost but I declined and 30 years later he's still fine
[08/09, 12:18] hu1: One patient details enough
[08/09, 12:28] hu1: I require her date of birth, time, place and full name details. To understand her profile. This profile for music therapy sir 👍
[08/09, 12:31] hu1: This gives, her nature, where she bound to go wrong mentally and her expected ailments. 5 elements what is major in her? What is her dosha prakruti, dominant karmic baggage chakra she is. 👍
[08/09, 12:35] cm: Oh I guess for that you will need to talk to her in pm because our group workflow is that all our patients are strictly deidentified
[08/09, 12:41] hu1: We could still work genericly without these details. But details given we can work in a profound way.
[08/09, 13:13] cm: Once I add the patient advocate here, I shall ask her to share the details with you in pm and then you can again work with her here without mentioning the patient's name and other details to us
[08/09, 13:15] cm: @Patient Advocate Diabetes 75F WB please pm your patient's date of birth, time, place and full name details to @hu1and once she processes that she will provide her inputs here
[08/09, 15:45] cm: She's the patient's advocate
[08/09, 15:46] hu1: For analysis her name given but patients name must be shared. I won't reveal anywhere. It for analysis only.
[08/09, 15:49] cm: How do you know it's her name and not patient's?
[08/09, 15:51] hu1: Assuming this name I started analysis
[08/09, 15:51] cm: Did she say she was herself the patient or she was the patient's advocate?
[08/09, 15:53] hu1: Nothing shared. Just dob place time. Since the name is here and same name reflected by you. Felt it's not actual patients name 👍
[08/09, 15:53] hu1: If it's confidential let's go with what info given. No issues 👍
[08/09, 15:58] hu1: Nothing I share anywhere assuring all is for analysis only. Ethics I follow👍😊
[08/09, 15:59] cm: Both could have the same name I guess 😅
[08/09, 16:00] cm: I'm sure the advocate has provided correct information about the patient. Perhaps both their names are same
[08/09, 16:01] cm: I've found 100 people online with my full name
[08/09, 16:08] hu1: 😃possibility.
[08/09, 16:43] hu1: Analysis - As every human has positive and negatives, the clients POSITIVE traits are MORE👏. Negatives are less and these traits lead to diseases.
[08/09, 16:44] hu1: Positves
[08/09, 16:48] cm: 👆All the above analysis is based on the name and date of birth given by @Patient Advocate Diabetes 75F WB?
[08/09, 16:49] hu1: S
[08/09, 16:52] hu1: Her sense of music is great. She can respond very good with her natural music sense. Clearly her karmic past giving - mantras bring her more success. 👍
[08/09, 16:52] hu1: Nada yoga is beneficial for her. 👏
[08/09, 16:52] cm: Only name and date of birth?
Can you share more about how it's done?
[08/09, 16:58] hu1: This is learnt through years of hard work. 😊👍. Astro says many things. But a person should be given only what he requires. The rest lies in the hands of the therapist and it's enough he /she understands. This is the KEY ELEMENT of a sensible therapist. We r not here to label individual. We r here to support them making them know good traits. Good traits gives awareness " Why I must live and recover fast to express good nature. ".negatives traits answer" What's wrong with my karmic deeds? Where I need to focus work? How can I cross them with tools. Could be allopathy medicines, music therapy, some XYZ. "
[08/09, 16:59] hu1: Pancha bhootas + body prakruti known half a solution 😊
[08/09, 17:00] hu1: Sir, I can show you individually how I make up my notes to you for you to understand but not required by all 😊👍. Hope u appreciate it 😊
[08/09, 17:01] hu1: Internal sounds what she needs to do. I can send now.
[08/09, 17:02] hu1: External music to hear I take one day time to show you the process 👍
[08/09, 17:03] hu1: Food - She loves good food. Needs to take tummy full. Her pitta prakruti needs it.
[08/09, 17:03] hu1: Food should go on these lines
[08/09, 17:15] hu1: Please let me know if this makes sense to u sir. Are they matching with her present health issues???
[08/09, 17:16] hu1: This gives validation support to me 😊
[08/09, 17:51] hu1: Sir tomorrow morning will give what she needs to adapt actual music therapy 👍.
[09/09, 07:21] hu1: The internal sounds what she needs to work out. She can do them any time. Simply sit straight and take 3 long breaths and start it. Totally relax no expectations from anything. No need to believe or not believe. Just simply sit and do them constantly everyday. Early morning or before sleep also ok. Have atleast water and do. Plz dont do empty stomach. You cannot do much on empty stomach.👍.likewise don't do soon after heavy food. You can't focus do. Make your body just ok and start. 1 . Akaaram exercise . Take full vrearhe in and start Akaaram AAAAAA. Slowly u start and let the sound become deeper deeper within. Utter as much time your breathe permits. Don't do stretching too much. As much as u feel u can hold breathe only. Slowly stop. Pause relax. Then again take breathe in and start 2nd time. Like wise do 11 times. The whole idea is to relax and send out all the negativity from the lower body systems. Feel the sound. All focus on how the sound is coming. From where it's generated? Listen to your own voice as it comes. 👍. 2. Ukaaram - simply put your mouth in O shape and utter UUUUU sound. 11 times. 3.makaaram- simply close mouth and utter hmmmm sound. Every cell in our body is activated when we do this. 11 times. After all 3 exercises the body feels very different. All nonsense disease creating energy is out and the body starts feeling with full life flowing. This is the preparation for the next level. It's making the body ready for the main thing. 🥰👍.
[09/09, 07:22] hu1: She can keep these sounds and do.
[09/09, 07:36] hu1: Now the main sound as per her astro- heart chakra. So much theory could be generated regarding Anahata or heart chakra from the internet itself. This is the place she is in right now. Every human is supposed to travel from lower chakras to higher. Lower chakras are not bad. It means - you have yet to fulfill your material baggages in the universe. Like money fame sexual pleasures etc. Anahata is a crossroad- u finished all and now it's time to look up" What's beyond it " In life.so this sound will keep her aware that u have to look up move up the ladder now. In reminding it to every cell. The numerous cells will heal. Bad ones are pushed out. Good healthy ones stay and heal body and make your higher journey start. Every humans destination is fixed. We are born to reach Sahasrara. The highest Pinnacle. Every human has this possibility. How much we make it is our karma🙏👍. As we cross each chakra and its position, related diseases sprout and we correct them with NADA YOGA. With sound we are doing so much inside. Like we wonder a small 💊pill, small injection how can it make life happen. In therapy 💊 is replaced by SOUND. Logic is when you have disease creating energy within you, obviously you have the DISEASE HEALING Mechanism also within you only. NOTHING EXISTS OUTSIDE. COSMOS exist Inside our body. When we remind the body with sounds. Cells understand this and start their work to heal body ailments. 👍This is the simplest way to understand.👍
[09/09, 07:47] hu1: All these things take not more than 10- 15 minutes a day. Just doing it once in a day is enough. Do it with all heart ❤😊. Please note the experience of the patient. The therapist's job is simply sit and make the patient actually do without fail.
[09/09, 08:31] cm: Very nice! We need to create a Raga music and healing ProJR. I'm wondering how to embed/display the audio files there.
ProJR stands for project journey record while PaJR is patient journey record.
Here's a sample of one of our ProJRs👇
[09/09, 09:21] hu1: Bp diabetes levels simple u check sir
[09/09, 09:21] hu1: After 21 of consistent practice check
[09/09, 09:22] hu1: 11 days, 21 days time required atleast to body to adapt
[09/09, 09:22] hu1: 3 days visible changes found 👍
[09/09, 09:23] hu1: 3,11,21, mandala these are sequential days taken to adapt.👍
[09/09, 09:24] hu1: If these in control most of the diseases in control right 👍
[10/09, 09:48] hu1: https://youtu.be/WIjlie1u6iE?si=mXDwf-qmwCzER6kV
[10/09, 09:51] hu1: Please listen morning or evening or any time. No time restriction while doing any works also u can listen. It should reach your subconscious brain. If no time also. Just start the music and sleep.it works during sleep also and heals ur entire system.
[10/09, 09:52] hu1: While listening external music draw circles
[10/09, 09:53] hu1: Drawing circles enhances so much confidence and like circle makes our life complete... Purnam in sanskrit 👍
[10/09, 09:54] hu1: The music given is changed every 3 months. 👍
[10/09, 09:57] hu1: Now it's for the patient to act and implement 😊. Ancient wisdom never fails. It's humans who fail implementing. So please do, it works 100%. You can heal best and fast if done consistently. Internal exercises and external music listening 🙏...
Let me introduce @cr who's our team archivist and coordinator. @hu8 who is our team coordinator and patient data capturer to transfer to our archivist. @hu6 who is our alumni and a health practitioner in sadhana forest
[10/09, 10:03] cm: This is exciting. Let me take some time to listen to the entire music spread here. The point of having a ProJR (project archive) is that it's a simple matter of sharing one link for all the data already shared here and not have to share it again with new members
[10-09-2025 10:02] cm: 👆 would be nice to have similar YouTube online links to the music here for our ProJR as otherwise it's difficult to archive for our team.
Let me introduce @cr who's our team archivist and coordinator. @hu8 who is our team coordinator and patient data capturer to transfer to our archivist. @hu6 who is our alumni and a health practitioner in sadhana forest
[10-09-2025 10:03] cm: This is exciting. Let me take some time to listen to the entire music spread here. The point of having a ProJR (project archive) is that it's a simple matter of sharing one link for all the data already shared here and not have to share it again with new members
[10-09-2025 10:10] hu1: Good if hospitals employ our kind and integrate treatments sir. Therapists always have challenges monetory wise and lack support for documentation. Research& funds definitely required. Like the small boys case discussed in earlier groups can be resolved quick with not much side effects. Children cant bear heavy doses of antibiotics. These kind work best. The reason children getting sick is no proper sound alignment and watching listening and using all the 5 senses in very wrong ways. MUSIC ASTROLOGY for every patient gives so much about individual and allopathy doctor gets so much info to treat best each patient effectively. This is my heart felt suggestions. 😊👍
[10-09-2025 10:18] hu1: Atleast with covid it's high time hospitals doctors understand that there knowledge not enough. It's time to integrate ancient wisdom and work hand in hand. And it's not any costly affair where u have to import from other countries 😊. It's all here with us and supporting people with minimum survival monetory funds and it doesn't pinch hospital pockets. It's change in ideology only matters.
[10-09-2025 10:18] cm: Yes we are trying to implement those in a manner such that it becomes more and more acceptable globally and shows demonstrable positive outcomes. The last part requires us to create transparent and accountable ProJRs where our entire workflow is visible globally
[10-09-2025 10:24] hu1: I am starting my individual consultancy now sir from my home. Anyone interested can approach me sir. My aim is to serve best each individual with minimum pay for the knowledge given and serve best. Every human born to live healthy and die healthy. Not to be on beds for long.🙏. This is the essence of sanatana dharma. Death also must be peaceful and with less pain and suffering. We all die but how we die matters. As we spend so much for birthdays, our death also must go like a celebration with ease and comfort 🙏. This as a therapist I realised with all my yogi gurus 🙏.
[10-09-2025 10:29] hu1: 🙏
[10-09-2025 10:50] hu1: All the best 44fpa Plz adapt and get well soon with a happy smile 😊. You have to heal fast and give a great contribution to the society 😃🥰❤.
[10-09-2025 13:04] cm: Today's class at 12.
[10-09-2025 13:04] cm: 10th September 2025 👆👆
[10-09-2025 13:07] cm: 👆Just some data that may or may not be related to our music and medicine ProJR
An early version of that ProJR is archived here in multiple stream of consciousness prose links 👇
It's essentially to see if medical data points can be analogous to swaras and then developing a system of musical medical cognition that will help people to make better medical decisions
[10-09-2025 13:09] hu1: Ok
[10-09-2025 13:18] hu1: These are for music learners I do teach music abroad and India online sir. That's how I earn little sustain financially. As per my analysis.... These are all intricacies to be learnt for music vocal or instrumental learners.My designing of music therapy exercises can be adopted by any layman too. So this theory part is not required for music therapy. Nor even great skills.. Any layman can come forward and take therapy. The 1-year syllabus is the main ingredient for therapy. Yes I give classes too. There is a particular design adopting. I'm teaching a U. S kid and norway kid from past 8 years. They have improved a lot in many areas. I even conducted a workshop with some songs with specific ragas. Singing a particular song one lady's age-old sinusitis problem was checked.
[10-09-2025 13:32] cm: Who are the musicians playing these?
[10-09-2025 13:32] hu1: One thing is you say it or not singing and listening consciously does help you heals you. There is no question of no effect. Effect is 100%
[10-09-2025 13:33] hu1: These are all picked from you tube only.
[10-09-2025 13:33] cm: 👆@44fpa can you recognise this raga?
[10-09-2025 13:33] cm: Oh great then please share the links
[10-09-2025 13:33] hu1: I select checking the individual. I mean subtle individuals with satik gunas have to play
[10-09-2025 13:34] hu1: No great pandits I believe or required.
[10-09-2025 13:34] cm: Although the audio format is good for quizzing for assessing a person's raga identification skills
[10-09-2025 13:35] hu1: That's why youtube you have all.. But to pick up is mastery of a therapist
[10-09-2025 13:35] cm: Agree
[10-09-2025 13:36] hu1: Many so called pandits are quite ego centric. So carefully we need to check who is playing
[10-09-2025 13:36] cm: Agree but I hope you share the YouTube links mainly for the sake of scientific transparency and accountability that will bring more credibility to this overall workflow
[10-09-2025 13:39] hu1: As I told you have so much in internet. This documentation is waste of time I truly believe sir. You plz check if patient is recovering fast working out. That way it can help a lot. Why I am saying this. What medicine works for u may not work for me though it's the same disease we share So when I get this music astro... I get an idea about the individual what he is how he might react... Then giving external music makes sense.
[10-09-2025 13:40] hu1: Hope you got this point 🙏
[10-09-2025 13:43] hu1: I can suggest a book too written by ganapathi sacchidananda swamy where u have almost everything of music therapy.
[10-09-2025 13:45] hu1: That's also waste... That's good theory wise. Its a complex structure. If you go with my analysis it can happen with 10 - 15 minutes and can work best. 👍. I have finished analysing all methods sir 👍
[10-09-2025 13:47] hu1: This book u can buy online
[10-09-2025 13:49] hu7: I dont think documentation is waste of time.
Lack of documentation and empirical evidence can make it challenging for allied sciences to gain widespread acceptance and credibility.
[10-09-2025 13:51] hu1: Yes I get it. I m talking in terms of which ragas to used. I will give the raga list to be used to this kind of patient. Surely
[10-09-2025 13:51] hu1: It's all available in internet too
[10-09-2025 13:52] hu1: Kalyani raga, mohana raga,
[10-09-2025 13:52] hu1: Rest I send tomorrow
[10-09-2025 13:52] hu1: 👍
[10-09-2025 13:55] hu1: Practically if NP maam does regularly I would know better. All the therapies... Most of the time going in understanding documentation and none is actually implemented. So making actually doing it is my intention.
[10-09-2025 15:01] hu1: Sankara bharanam, vedic chanting, kapi ragam
[10-09-2025 15:01] hu1: Vedi chanting by ganapati channel
[10-09-2025 15:03] hu1: All taken from you tube. Since YouTube continuity is a problem with advertisement, I converted all in mp3 and given aa one single to play easily.
[10-09-2025 15:04] hu1: Advertisements disturb the sequence 👍
[10-09-2025 15:04] hu1: All I give from YouTube only 👍
[10-09-2025 15:05] hu1: Internal voices all my owm voice recordings👍
[10-09-2025 15:07] hu1: 1 small boy was there where one set wasn't having effect. I had to change it for that boy.
[10-09-2025 15:09] hu1: Reason I also could not find out. I changed some ragas and same ragas different set of audios. The boy liked responded and mother gave a feedback that he improved from his condition He was a special child 👍.
[10-09-2025 15:11] hu1: He has slight autism... If not helped rightly he would have been turned severe autistic but parents could realise brought to a therapist (myself).
[10-09-2025 15:19] hu1: My insights experiences.
[10-09-2025 15:21] hu1: As I told I would change them every 3 months.
[10-09-2025 16:29] cm: Heard till this audio during lunch time and although given the option I always prefer vocal carnatic pieces for my own listening, I found these pieces very soothing and pleasing to listen and largely North Indian styled till this audio so our North Indian members also may enjoy it. Let's hope our selected patient will soon listen to it. The only disadvantage of not sharing the music through links is to have to share it again and again for the new members other than the fact that it's difficult to archive into a ProJR without the links
[10-09-2025 16:35] cm: Link to our afternoon session today: https://youtu.be/YHFAHTr3CrQ?feature=shared
[10-09-2025 16:49] hu1: I don't have them right now sir. I had made them in my data base
[10-09-2025 16:49] hu1: I already made mp3 kept for ragas and for ailments
[10-09-2025 16:49] hu1: Exact source to bring is difficult
[10-09-2025 16:50] hu1: Yeah north Indian we have south indian also in it
[10-09-2025 16:50] hu1: Fusions I picked up to bring in interest from the audio yet be with classical.
[10-09-2025 16:52] hu1: Since u advised. From here on I keep the source link too 😊👍
[10-09-2025 16:53] hu1: Tq for taking time and listening🙏😊
[10-09-2025 16:55] hu1: Let NP go through this music. I can make a set later after a while with source link 👍😊
[10-09-2025 16:58] hu1: Many autistic kids who have speech issues cannot do internal sounds. Chronic patients too. In those cases only external music was given and it gave results. 👏😊
[10-09-2025 17:01] hu1: Lack of time support funds I could not do proper documentation... From now on will start documemtation. 👍. I dint have a laptop too that time. Now I have a laptop😄.
[11-09-2025 08:27] hu1: One fact is sir, honestly documentation is base for all, but some facts we can just go by intuition. It says what's right or not.so whether we believe or not believe ancient wisdom works and music therapy works. It's high time hospitals incorporate this no side effects methodology with their scientific modern medicine. With least funds, great good can happen to patient. 👍🙏
[11-09-2025 08:46] hu6: you can restart your research now, take consent, take notes, observe the results, taking help from modern science and showing proofs to world, that will take a lot of patience and hardwork by team. and once atleast one research team take your work and publish it then the whole world will slowly understand the scientific basis of every Healing strategy of yours.
Proofs and documentation is needed in this world because Trust is something that's being misused and taken advantage of.
so I hope you take this insight of mine in Good spirit.
[11-09-2025 08:54] hu1: I will do documentation it's never too late 👍
[11-09-2025 10:20] cm: Yes let's begin from this group. Our official archivist is @cr but all are free to archive and mirror our work in their own online learning portfolios
There are 5000 online learning portfolios generated by 1000 students from Narketpally here: https://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2022/02/?m=1
[12-09-2025 07:45] hu1: Yesterday my student adult called up saying my BP went very high these days 180 siatica and diabetes she got at a very young. She kept bp machine monitoring herself. She is taking some mix of allopathy and patanjali medication. When Bp at 180, she started her usual songs and sounds and after measured BP it came to 120 soon after doing them. 😊👏👍. Should I document all these sir???
[12-09-2025 07:46] hu1: For BP music therapy sure shot medicine personally I believe sir. Listen ragas and utter sounds 👍.
[12-09-2025 08:26] cm: Yes first step is to always create a separate PaJR similar to how it has been created here https://pajrcasereporter.blogspot.com/?m=1 for every individual patient driven PaJR project and every population driven project aka ProJR.
[12-09-2025 08:27] cm: All done by @cr independent researcher from Hyderabad.
You can learn more from her by texting her and if she agrees can set up a time to talk synchronously
[12-09-2025 08:29] cm: Check out how another of our independent researchers (and Indian classical music practitioners) @rs2 maintains her research log of a patient who's BP medications could be eventually stopped simply through regular PaJR follow up here 👇
[12-09-2025 08:49] cm: I was thinking that from a research protocol perspective and to make this raga intervention toward human problem solving ProJR work visible globally as a scientific publication, we can begin by creating a problem list of this 44F patient (the first to receive your audio file tablet interventions) and already previously published here: https://preprints.jmir.org/preprint/81950
This will help to rationalize which audio file tablet to match for which problem along with some root cause analysis of how each audio tablet addresses each of the patient's problems.
[12-09-2025 08:50] hu1: Internal sounds also the patient has to do it sir 👍. That's more effective 👍
[12-09-2025 08:51] cm: Excellent addition! 👏👏
Please elaborate on the methodology of listening to internal sounds
[13-09-2025 10:27] hu1: Sir I would remake the music with proper links and indetail. Someone here plz help me with all the ailments the patient presently facing. I would mix it with her expected health issues + present ones and do the entire thing again for documentation👍
[13-09-2025 10:28] hu1: Some medical terms I am not understanding 👍. Just a precise ailment list.👍
[13-09-2025 14.22] cm: The patient advocate @44fpa here can help.
Other than her the current case reporters for this patient @cr @hu3@hu2@hu5@hu4 can also help.
Feel free to text them to learn more about the patient's problem list.
[13-09-2025 17:10] 44fpa: The patient wants to know how to overcome the obstacles in her daily life with music therapy?is it possible?
[13-09-2025 17:27] hu1: Yes
[13-09-2025 17:27] hu1: I can explain her
[13-09-2025 17:45] hu1: First she needs to know her potential positive qualities. Her so called negatives list. She needs to understand that crossing conscious decision from within she needs to do to overcome her nature.once this done, when the medicines are given they would start effecting her positively. 👍. Next every morning when she renders the internal sounds, she can do taking my audios sitting comfortable, the disease causing enzymes from all areas of her body are let out. And when she does the main Ma sound her chakra sound she would develop disease healing capability. Disease is because of wrong sounds, disturbance is natural body sounds. When you replace with right sounds both internal& external , body heals naturally. Moreover she has another tool of allopathy. Allopathy doesn't work for patients at times because body doesn't accept to heal. When you prepare your body according to your karmic sounds, cells will naturally take in all tools and heals faster. Sounds heal slowly. When you take the aid of allopathy + sounds healing rate quickens. MUSIC Therapy WORKS ONLY WHEN YOU DO IT CONSISTENT LY DAILY 😊. Plz keep this in mind. Humans are not made to suffer in beds. We r here to fulfill our specific life goals.😊👍
[13-09-2025 17:48] 44fpa: Great
[13-09-2025 17:53] hu1: Plz show her positive traits list. She has lot of inner capacity to heal withstand. Vomitings also will come down if she does it daily 😊👍
[13-09-2025 17:54] hu1: Bp will come down consistently.
[13-09-2025 17:54] hu1: Then she will be better to respond to treatment 👍.
[13-09-2025 17:56] hu1: I am in hospital itself brings lot of panic in a patient. This has to be addressed. 😊👍
[13-09-2025 19:03] hu1: In the other group the patient shows rashes. In the MUSIC ASTROLOGY also it's given clear.. She is tend to have frequent skin rashes because of her body prakruti👍. It's matching the possible ailments list 👍. TO BE NOTED.
[13-09-2025 19:05] hu1: Balance the prakriti with cooling foods, then it can come under check along with internal + external sounds. 👍
[13-09-2025 19:08] hu1: She might be feeling very irritated inside so that's the reason to develop rashes. Lessen her irritation with sounds and rashes will come down.👍
[13-09-2025 20:50] 44fpa: When she felt itching there was no inside irritation, just casually took evening tea with her family members.
[13-09-2025 21:59] hu2: Wow. This is a great intervention. cm Sir thank you for adding me to the group
[14-09-2025 07:53] cr: @hu1 mam, I am cr
Will be grateful if you suggest music therapy for my overthinking problem which is causing severe migraine.
[14-09-2025 09:49] 44fpa: cr mam if u can practice it I am sure migraine will vanish.The patient had been suffering severe migraine pain from 1994..but the regular practicing of "OM "naad chanting,bhastrika Pranayama, nd some others chanting from the year 2004 she gets amezing result., Now she is almost completely free from maigrain pain,
[14-09-2025 10:41] cr: Thank you so much @44fpa. Actually I am not a doctor. I am a homemaker.
In fact I am doing yoga and Pranayama since 20yrs. But will try more.
[14-09-2025 11:30] hu1: We can add up more to it maam . External ragas along with internal.one of my student lost prolonged migrane singing a particular song with raga chakravaka. 👍
[14-09-2025 11:34] 44fpa: Yes, very much interested to learn about internal sound.
[14-09-2025 11:44] cr: What are the ragas, can you please share.
[14-09-2025 11:52] cm: This is giving me an idea to draw up an analogy between the 72 melakarta ragas and their janyams with the WHO essential drug list!
[14-09-2025 11.58] hu1: Voice message converted to text by AI: It sounds like you're sharing some deep insights about the therapeutic use of ragas and how important it is to tailor the approach to each individual patient. You're absolutely right! Just like a good recipe needs the right ingredients, music therapy needs to consider the patient's unique needs and preferences.
It's fascinating how some people might respond better to instrumental music while others connect more with songs or chants. And adding elements like sacred geometry can really enhance the experience.
Your experience over the years really shines through in your understanding of this holistic approach. It's all about creating a customized therapy plan that resonates with the patient's prakriti and nature.
[16-09-2025 09:48] hu1: No info if the patient is doing the therapy given sir. It's good she tries daily.
[16-09-2025 09:49] hu1: Results come after usage only.
[16-09-2025 12:44] cm: @44fpa did your patient tell you if she was using the audio tablets @hu1 shared here?
[16-09-2025 12:48] 44fpa: Oh! sorry, sorry mam ..
[16-09-2025 12:54] 44fpa: From this morning the patient feels heavy pain in her right shoulder joint nd Arm .After practicing raaga therapy which she shared,now she feels better.
[16-09-2025 12:55] 44fpa: Yes she can share audios tablets.
[16-09-2025 12:57] hu1: 👍
[16-09-2025 12:59] hu1: Actually if I could talk teach her once how to do, it's even more better 👍
[16-09-2025 12:59] 44fpa: Ok
[16-09-2025 12:59] hu1: She is drinking tamarind juice I think she needs to avoid and see.
[16-09-2025 13:00] hu1: After 40 tamarind if avoided good for all body prakruti types.
[16-09-2025 13:00] hu1: She is drinking too big a glass that to.
[16-09-2025 13:00] hu1: Ask her to avoid it one day and see maam
[16-09-2025 13:01] 44fpa: Only that particular day she took tamarind water just because of her allergic reaction
[16-09-2025 13:02] hu1 Else if she cant avoid, may be a spoon. Tamarind garlic should be used as medicine They say.
[16-09-2025 13:07] 44fpa: How to use tamarind garlic? actually she doesn't take garlic or tamarind on regular basis. if she likes to drink lemon juice with pinch of rock salt.
[16-09-2025 13:18] hu1: She can avoid all together tamarind maam. You get something called albakara fruit. Dry fruit. Just keep it in mouth and take little little juice don't eat at once. Vomiting sensation can be avoided. Even if vomiting comes, after washing the mouth if she puts this mouth sits a while. Normally it becomes at ease the system. It sets ur taste buds back. 👍. Tamarind may be good for digestion it brings lots of body pains too. If she can't be just a small tiny spoon she can take. I'm sure albakara everyone will like. She can avoid tamarind all together. She is pitta prakruti
[16-09-2025 13:19] hu1: She needs to avoid too much heat 🔥creating foods to balance her pitta nature .
[16-09-2025 13:20] hu1: She can eat as much as she can. Pitta bodies love to eat more and they have that power to digest too. 👍
[16-09-2025 13:27] 44fpa: Thank you mam.
[16-09-2025 13:30] 44fpa: Which type of food can balance her pitta nature pl mention her r daily diet..
[16-09-2025 13:35] hu1: May be anagha would be better to suggest this 👍
[16-09-2025 21:33] hu1: Cooling foods generally beerakai, kaddu, anapakai, watery vege, dosakai, kheera, greens except gongura, buttermilk curd not so good. If she at home she can take night soaked fice with water and curd (most cooling food). Rice is ok. Chapati with kalonji, and other kind of body cooling foods maam. 😊
[16-09-2025 21:45] cr: Ridgegourd, bottlegourd, pumpkin, yellow cucumber. All Leafy veg.
[19-09-2025 16:33] cr: @hu1 practicing the audio sounds you have taught me.
[19-09-2025 17:11] hu1: Tq
[19-09-2025 17:14] hu1: Forgot to give u one more. Plz write O circle shapd daily maam. One page a day. Slowly consciously.
[19-09-2025 23:59] 44fpa: Write O circle shape means?pl tell details
[19-09-2025 23:59] 44fpa Tumi ghumie poro
[19-09-2025 23:59] 44fpa: Kotha ses hoye geche
[20-09-2025 00:24] 44fpa: Ok.
[20-09-2025 00:25] 44fpa: From tomorrow I will try it.
[20-09-2025 01:25] hu1: 👍
[20-09-2025 09:07] cr: May I know the benefits of writing
[23-09-2025 10:02] hu1: There is a list of diseases and thoughts list. Negative thoughts lead to disease and when we replace them with positive thoughts. Automatically every pill treatment you take works good and probably with minimum side effects.
[23-09-2025 10:03] hu1: Its from a book of Louis hay I picked. Almost all ailments listed in it. Will forward in a while the list
[23-09-2025 10:20] hu1: We can download I believe
[23-09-2025 10:21] hu1: Detailed alphabetical order hundreds of diseases listed.
[23-09-2025 10:24] hu1: 1.Keep the pills to be taken in front.2.After we do internal sounds it's the right time to 3. implant these thoughts. Then after these 3 steps when pills taken will have it's effect.
[23-09-2025 10:24] hu1: 4. start external sounds raga listening.
[23-09-2025 10:25] hu1: This kind of integrated approach will make the patient heal faster than usual time.
[23-09-2025 10:26] hu1: Hope it makes sense when I am listing the steps here. 👍
[23-09-2025 10:32] hu1: The whole point is the side effects of tablets can be reduced this way. Minimum tablets. Allopathy doctor can fully concentrate just on the disease. The recovery rate doubles. Patients heal faster. All these are tools for a doctor like Stethoscope. They help doctors. If the recovery rate is faster hospitals surely get a good name. It's like why therapists should be outside hospitals. We can be inside and aid in the patient's healing process. Integrated approach is the essence of Bharath that will make us distinct from the rest of the places. This is purely a perspective studied and felt 😊
[23-09-2025 11:25] cm: Should we design scientific experiments to prove that these are more effective than placebo or should we contend ourselves that these are placebos (in the scientific sense) and inform our patients that they need to accept these as placebos and there's nothing wrong in benefiting from placebos
[23-09-2025 11:35] hu1: I feel sir, patients will be ready to take in whatever given in hospitals. They never question anything. It's for us to use, see if its truly working. What changes needed. When taking pills who bother to know which tablet for what? They simply trust and take all. So basically therapy works before treament and after treatment too. In fact I say those who are 100% fit can take their karmic sounds and work on from schooling days kind. The frequency of being I'll, sensitive kind of issues are solved. It's like u will meet the illness for sure but the impact will be less and pass by easily. Big leg break would turn up as a scratch and leave you when you connected with ur sound therapy.
[23-09-2025 12:09] cm: Yes even now many of the over-testing and overtreatment available in current hospitals are largely placebos if not nocebos.
We are trying to find cost effective ways to stem the tide of the current non evidence based over-testing and overtreatment pandemic and looking for optimal usage of available resources to deliver high quality care at lower cost and hence the data points need to be captured and made well joinable with transparency and accountability @hu9 @hu3
[25-09-2025 07.42] hu1: I think u have heard about DR DEEPAK CHOPRA. revolutionary doc who integrated, ayurveda, music therapy and included astrology too to get an overview of the person to treat and case studies how he succeeded in treating chronic diseases. I got a grt book of his.
Basically I read all books where music therapy is used and trying best to bring out a book of what all did and how it's working.
Yes my unique point what I researched in seperate book. This is my plan cm sir 👍.
[25-09-2025 07.45] hu10: @hu1 please share more. Would it be convenient to have half hour webinar
[25-09-2025 07.46] hu1: The beauty of this therapy what I integrated feel is in times coming days like covid pandemics kind. People should be prepared. If you do ur specific sounds eat sensibly as per ur body prakruti and lead happy life no pandemic can touch.
Once I pool up all surely sir we do 👍
[25-09-2025 07.48] hu10: Prakriti Parikshan started by AYUSH few months ago
[25-09-2025 07.49] hu1: *This is need of the hour. As I told, everyone should equip those who are fine also need it. So that the don't fall sick. Those already with ailments will recover sooner with integrated approach. Music therapy what I give is with 0 side effects mentally physically. It would only do GOOD*
Not aware sir. I am a simple girl with atmost interest fighting all odds financially and leaving career with this one subject 😊.
[25-09-2025 07.55] hu10: 
[25-09-2025 07.55] hu1: Our family is live example.continuously we were cooking serving covid pandemic, 1 st covid and 2 nd covid too. Almost all our apt and our immediate neighbors too effected. I am very allergic, cough cold is quite frequent. We have NGO and fully immersed with work. No news tracking, no TV except movies kind and ate sensibly. Our family not effected. My brother almost half a day with all prone areas not effected. Including my heart patient mother. 🙏🙏
[25-09-2025 08.52] cm: Would you like to share the daily workflow of your NGO?
[25-09-2025 09.51] hu1: I will sir
[25-09-2025 10.46] hu10: @cm sir please connect Sarod Vadak
[25-09-2025 10.52] cm: I have already connected for a few weeks now. I'm not sure if he will want to join here. Please add him if he does. Have made you admin
[25-09-2025 10.57] hu1: https://youtu.be/EElT4NxiFF4?si=4wRYgXLHPHSF66Py
I think sir is in line with what I told rather me in line with what he already spoke 😊🙏
[25-09-2025 11.06] hu10: Today I felt how talking is important than just WhatsApp🫡
[25-09-2025 11.06] hu1: The pause between sounds he spoke that matters. Simple sounds what I gave. If done with right poses and with pause after each sound rendering. Proper intake of breath in breathe out will make many things. Possible. Music (nada yoga + astrology+ ayurveda + allopathy + arts like drawing what I gave sacred geometry. each 7 chakras has a form shape smell and sound. What I gave are the simplest forms to execute.
[25-09-2025 11.40] cm: The pauses could be similar to what we term PaJR introns? @hu2 @hu9 @rs2👇
[25-09-2025 12.40] hu1: Yes sir. Like the darkness light. Breathe in and breathe out. In that pause lies the sushumna nadi thats where the magic exists. 😊👍.
[05-10-2025 19.47] cm: 
[12-10-2025 09.24] hu1: Started to help people experience music therapy sir 🙏
To join the meeting on Google Meet, click this link:
Or open Meet and enter this code: xyx-gvqu-yjt. Today and tomorrow evening 7 pm to 8 pm శ్రీ జీయర్ స్వామి వారి కీర్తనలు ఆన్ లైన్ క్లాసు ఉంది.
[05-10-2025 20.16] hu1: Great sir
[05-10-2025 20.46] cm: Couldn't read it myself. Can you summarise it in short?
[05-10-2025 21.20] hu1: It's a song praising great ness of guru.
[06-10-2025 02.44] hu1: Sir if recording there I can learn teach others.
[06-10-2025 03.48] hu1: This sloka every night everyone small to big should practice and ask shiva and sleep. It has got lot lot of relevance. Especially the patients at hospitals. It's a small 🤏heartfelt prayer to shiva to give very easy death, not to depend bedridden and depend on others during our lifetime and after death let me merge with you shiva. This sloka makes us prepare for a grandeur meaningful death🙏. Everyday patient must listen. No need to understand every meaning line to line. Just listening also is good. So many die in hospitals everyday. The last moments how you do die matters. All the ICU beds should listen this sloka so that the moment death comes this should be there last lines. Not wordly nonsense of what about my children, who will take property, why I am dying so soon kind. That exact moment of death leaving and after death 5 - 7 min the prana still exists inside the body they say. So this sloka can give the right departure and good arrival for the next janma.🙏.
All the doctors especially must start the day with this song. All the doctors before coming to hospitals must do their own sounds and listen to particular ragas so that they give their best to patients 🙏
[10-10-2025 13.58] hu1: https://youtube.com/shorts/pX8tkwvDP-Q?si=dyfrabeTeQl807dd
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[15-10-2025 07.51] cm: In the early 1970s, while the world was looking at rockets and moon landings, a quiet physicist named C. V. Vishveshwara was listening for something entirely different -- the sound of the universe itself.
Working under Charles Misner at the University of Maryland, Vishveshwara posed a deceptively simple question: what happens when you disturb a black hole?
He discovered that the answer was not silence but music.
A black hole, when “tapped,” does not collapse into chaos. It rings — producing faint, perfectly ordered vibrations in spacetime called quasinormal modes.
Each mode carries information about the black hole’s mass and spin, much like the tone of a bell reveals its shape and size.
It was a breakthrough born not in a lab but on paper -- pure thought guided by mathematics.
Yet as Vishveshwara’s calculations deepened, NASA’s curiosity about such abstractions began to fade.
The 1970s ushered in a new era of pragmatism: budgets flowed toward technology, satellites, and spaceflight — not toward theorists trying to hear the unhearable.
Funding for general relativity dwindled, and many like Vishveshwara worked in near silence, their insights preserved in equations rather than instruments.
After completing his Ph.D., Vishveshwara took up a post-doctoral position at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and later held research appointments at universities in New York, Boston, and Pittsburgh.
In 1976, he returned to India to join the Raman Research Institute, where he established a school of gravitational physics. From there, he moved to the Indian Institute of Astrophysics in 1992, retiring in 2005.
In 1998, he was invited to be the founding Director of the Jawaharlal Nehru Planetarium, Bengaluru -- a place where his creative and imaginative powers came into full bloom.
The shows he curated carried his distinctive signature: a blend of mythology, culture, scientific history, and cosmic curiosity. The Planetarium became a living tribute to his versatile genius.
He was not only a pioneering physicist but also a science communicator par excellence, one who believed that wonder was as important as knowledge.
Even in his final days, Vishveshwara remained devoted to his creation -- reviewing a new Planetarium show just days before his passing on January 16, 2017.
On another front, his book Einstein’s Enigma or Black Holes in My Bubble Bath revealed yet another dimension of his mind. Written with wit, clarity, and imagination, it reads like a travelogue through the universe -- filled with humor, reflections, and deep insight. The literary gift, perhaps, came from his father, a renowned Kannada writer and scholar.
Decades after his early discoveries, in 2015, the silence finally broke.
The LIGO observatory detected gravitational waves from two merging black holes, and in the final moments -- the faint “ringdown” -- the data matched Vishveshwara’s predictions almost note for note. The music he had written in the language of mathematics finally played across the cosmos.
He had waited forty years for that sound.
And when someone once asked if he was related to the great astrophysicist S. Chandrasekhar, Vishveshwara smiled and replied with characteristic wit:
“We are relativists, not relatives.”
[10:26 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: Namaskaram All
I had a consultation with Sushri Vardhini. She was very open, focussed on the subject and wants to contribute something important to our life's journey. I found the consultation helpful. Simple but efficient remedies will be provided.
[10:26 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: Sir
[10:26 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: My astro consultancy kicking off. 😊
[10:26 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: Will be sharing one review one day. 🙏👍
[10:28 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: This one is famous oncologist brother working with him. 👍
That doc is working in Assam🙏🙏
[11:07 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: Another one I wish to share is greatest sadhaka. Doctors declared TB spinal cord gone bedridden, said will never walk again in his life. With yoga meditation he recovered going office, and do or die he does his sadhanas daily. Doing my sounds he seen visible changes now👍 he said will do voice and video soon busy with office 😊🙏
[11:07 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: I also taken the Music Astrology consultation with Vardhini Akka, and it was a truly unique and enriching experience.
In the past, I had tried many types of astrology remedies such as predictions, pooja suggestions, temple visits, gemstones, and numerology. However, this was the first time I came across Music Astrology. When I saw it on the portal, I decided to give it a try, especially since I had already spent quite a lot on other astrology based remedies.
Akka was extremely prompt and punctual, she called me exactly at the scheduled time. I initially thought the session would last around 30 minutes, but it continued for more than two hours. Throughout the session, she was very patient, understanding, and kind, listening carefully to all my questions and responding with great clarity and warmth.
She explained my strengths and weaknesses in detail and guided me on how to make better use of my abilities in day-to-day life. I realised that I had not been using my own strengths effectively. Some of her insights were truly eye-opening and very practical. Akka also shared her personal journey, which was inspiring and motivating.
After the consultation, she suggested specific music notes and shared some tracks to listen to regularly. The session was highly informative, valuable, and deeply meaningful. I immediately recommended it to my brother and sister, and my brother has already taken the consultation.
A heartfelt thanks to Vardhini Akka for this wonderful offering and to Nishant Anna for making it available on the portal.
[11:09 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: He deserves a applaud for sure 🙇♀️😊
[11:10 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: He did take medicatiin and used all therapies knowledge too for recovery. KINDLY NOTE.
[11:11 am, 29/10/2025] hu1: It's an integration he did
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