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36F Depression, Road traffic injuries Forensic verbal autopsy UK PaJR

 

16-11-2025


[2:25 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 1: Life events:
infant brother, died shortly after his birth one year before she was born.
seven years old when her parents divorced lived with her mother in London during her parents' separation in 1960, but during that year's Christmas holidays, her father refused to let his daughter return to London with her mother. In 1969, her father married again. Her relationship with her stepmother was particularly bad.
She resented her, whom she called a "bully". On one occasion she pushed her stepmother down the stairs. She later described her childhood as "very unhappy" and "very unstable, the whole thing.
She did not perform well academically, failing her O-levels twice
She demonstrated musical ability as a skilled pianist. She also excelled in swimming and diving, and studied ballet. After attending a finishing school in Switzerland for one term, and leaving after the Easter term of 1971, she returned to London, where she shared her mother's flat with two school friends.
In London, she took an advanced cooking course and worked at a series of low-paying jobs; she worked as a dance instructor for youth until a skiing accident caused her to miss three months of work.
At 16 met her husband who was then 29 and dating her older sister. 12 weeks into her first pregnancy—fell down a staircase, suffering some bruising, but the foetus was uninjured.
She later confessed that she had intentionally thrown herself down the stairs because she was feeling "so inadequate". suffered from postpartum depression after her first pregnancy.
A second son was born on September 1977. Said she and her husband were closest during her pregnancy with the second son. However they had marital issues soon after and divorced in 1989.
She was labeled with many diagnosis including depression, bulimia, borderline personality disorder and was alleged to have engaged numerous times in the act of self-harm. Post divorce after a year she was on an outing with a person who she was seeing for a few months. They were traveling on a ford fiesta car with the driver and his assistant sitting in front when they started getting chased by unidentified people who took them to a solitary road (which did have more than 14 CCTVs but none worked) where they met with a crash! The system of emergency care adhered to the "stay and play" mantra, which meant that the patient needed to be stabilised first at a fully equipped medical ambulance before being directed to a specialised hospital that could treat his or her injuries, no matter how far away it was.
Police Officers were the first emergency officials to arrive at the scene at around 1:30 a.m.  A specialist in anaesthetics and intensive care treatment and the doctor in charge of ambulance, arrived at around 1:40 a.m. She was removed from the car at 2:00 a.m. She then went into cardiac arrest. Following external cardiopulmonary resuscitation, her heart started beating again. She was moved to the ambulance at 2:18 a.m.
The ambulance departed from the crash scene at 2:41 a.m. and arrived at the hospital at 3:06 a.m.—a journey time of approximately 26 minutes. This included a stop ordered by the ambulance doctor because of the drop in her blood pressure and the necessity of dealing with it. The ambulance was travelling slowly on his express instructions. The doctor was concerned about her blood pressure and the effects on her medical condition of deceleration and acceleration.
[2:32 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 3: So this is a life journey record. We are all patients. Beautifully summed up. Let's look into the events and analyse them
[2:35 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 4: I feel sorry for her.
[2:43 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 3: She had a rough childhood
[2:55 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 4: Is the age of the patient right? If these events occurred in the 70s, how is the age 36F? I am new to the group, hence might have missed the previous discussions
[3:02 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 3: I think we may be looking at a snapshot in time and when the road traffic injuries occurred she was 36
[3:07 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 5: More into the fine arts or performing arts? Was this her main profession, as I understood she taught ballet dancing?
[3:20 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 5: Am trying to separate out the inconsistencies between the events and narration of real events and those that could be an imagination.
[3:22 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 5: I put this narration through Perplexity to help me sort out the "inconsistencies" and this is what came out.
[3:24 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 5: Yes — there are several inconsistencies and chronological mismatches in that narration, as well as some confusing or improbable details that suggest either mixing of accounts or secondary retelling errors. Here’s a breakdown of the main issues:1. Chronological inconsistencies Birth and infant brother timeline:
It says her infant brother died one year before she was born — that could be accurate, but in historical context (if this is modeled after Diana, Princess of Wales), her brother John did die before her birth, so that piece fits. London separation in 1960 vs birth year:
If her parents separated in 1960 and she was “seven years old” at the time, that places her birth around 1953. However, other parts (divorce dates, remarriage in 1969) align more closely [3:24 pm, 16/11/2025] +91 98450 31486: with someone born later in the 1960s (Diana was born in 1961). So, the “1960” reference during separation doesn’t align with the rest. At 16 met her husband aged 29 while dating her older sister:
That aligns with known biographical gossip about Diana meeting Charles at 16 when he was 29 and dating her sister, but in this account it’s dropped without explanation of when (around 1977). That matches Diana’s story, but the timing collides with her other schooling and skiing accident timeline. Finishing school and cooking course timeline contradiction:
She’s said to finish her term in Switzerland (Easter 1971), return to London, and take courses — yet she’s also meeting her future husband “at 16,” which, if born in 1953, would be 1969. These sequences don’t fit together.2. Narrative inconsistencies Shifting perspective and pronouns:
The text suddenly transitions between third-person objective narration and introspective statements (e.g., “She later confessed” or “She said they were closest during…”). This suggests excerpts from different summaries woven together without reconciliation. Ambiguous reference to stepmother incident:
The mention of pushing her stepmother down the stairs is quite strong yet treated abruptly, as if a direct quote from a different source. The narrative tone before and after doesn’t integrate it coherently.3. Accident description irregularitiesAmbiguity of location and people involved:
The final portion mixes phrasing typical of reports about Princess Diana’s 1997 crash — “Ford Fiesta” is an incorrect replacement (the car was a Mercedes).
“Driver and assistant in front” — possibly meant “chauffeur and bodyguard.”
“Unidentified people chasing them” — this blends public speculation and conspiracy interpretations. CCTV details (14 cameras, none worked):
That figure is not consistently documented in actual investigations. Including it without context implies selective quoting from conspiracy narratives.Timeline of medical intervention:
The emergency timeline is plausible (based on French “stay and play” practice), but inconsistent pronouns (“the doctor was concerned about his blood pressure”) add confusion.4. Diagnosis and post-divorce period“Labeled with many diagnosis including depression…”
Such phrasing is non-clinical and mixes speculation with known psychological reports. Also, some diagnoses (e.g., borderline personality disorder) were never formally confirmed publicly, suggesting the writer merged speculation with established accounts.Post-divorce “a year later she was on an outing…”
This conflates the 1996 divorce and 1997 crash timeline, which would be slightly off but not impossible; still, “a year later” gives a misleading impression of a neatly rounded one-year gap.
[3:32 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 1: Striking parallels 👍
[3:54 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 3: What exactly are the imaginations in the life events ?
[3:59 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 5: Call it a life event, like say an accident where the "introspection" of that event is 'fleshed' out by one's imagination and point of view.
[4:03 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 3: Makes sense
[4:04 pm, 16/11/2025] PPM 3: Does have some parallels
[10:23 pm, 17/11/2025] PPM 3: What happened after that?
[8:06 am, 18/11/2025] PPM 1: The ambulance reached the hospital. The doctors performed basic tests. Its was noted that there was hemopericardium. They opened the thorax to drain the blood. The cardiovascular and thoracic surgeon noticed a tear in the pulmonary veins and tried to repair it. During the repair the patient went into cardiac arrest. Despite all resuscitation efforts the patient could not be resuscitated and was declared dead at 4am in the morning
[2:46 pm, 23/11/2025] PPM 4: What are we trying to explore here? The death was approximately how many years ago?

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