APRIL 23, 2024
THIS IS AN ONLINE E LOG BOOK TO DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S DE-IDENTIFIED HEALTH DATA SHARED AFTER TAKING HER SIGNED INFORMED CONSENT. HERE WE DISCUSS OUR PATIENT'S PROBLEMS THROUGH SERIES OF INPUTS FROM AVAILABLE GLOBAL ONLINE COMMUNITY EXPERTS WITH AN AIM TO SOLVE THOSE PATIENT'S CLINICAL PROBLEMS WITH COLLECTIVE CURRENT BEST EVIDENCE BASED INPUTS.
48F DM Uncontrolled Sugars Left Great Toe Amputation
A 48 year old female resident of Vellemla (Narketpally Mandal) who is a homemaker came to casualty with complaints of Wound over left foot since 1 week.
Patient was apparently asymptomatic 8 yrs back, then developed generalized weakness for which she went to hospital and diagnosed to have DM for which she started using medication Tab. METFORMIN 500MG PO/OD & Tab. GLIMEPERIDE 1MG PO/OD. She was using talets regularly. In between she visited our hospital for 2-3 times then her FBS was <250.
FEBRUARY 2024
She developed a fluid filled bleb over her left Great Toe which ruptured spontaneously and healed after dressing done at local hospital. No H/O of fever at that time.
10th APRIL 2024
She developed a wound near left great toe associated with swelling of left LL and fever for which she came to OPD. Advised for admission but they denied admission.
INVESTIGATIONS ON 10/04/2024
Hb - 9.4; TLC - 23900; PLT - 3.65
RBS - 604; HbA1C: 8.2%
S.Creatinine - 3.1
They went to other hospital in Hyderabad where they diagnosed as
Cellulitis of Lt.LL
Diabetic Foot Ulcer over Lt.Great toe
Uncontrolled Sugars
Hypotension (70/50mmHg)
Dyselectrolytemia
Rx: Debridement + Disarticulation of Lt.Great toe Done under Ankle Block on 13/04/24
Investigations at other Hospital:
2D Echo on 11/4/24:
Colour Doppler on 12/04/24:
Patient came on LAMA on 19/04/2024and came to our hospital.
Vitals at the time of admission:
BP: 90/50mmgh
PR: 86/min
RR: 18/min
Spo2: 98% on RA
GRBS: 164mg/dl
CVS: S1 S2+
RS: BAE+; NVBS+
PA: Soft; NT
CNS: NFND
Investigations:
CXR on 19/04/24:
Diagnosis:
Septic Shock Secondary to Lt.Diabetic Foot
S/P Disarticulation of Left Great toe
K/C/O T2DM Since 8years
Treatment:
19/04/24 to 23/04/24
1.IVF - NS@75ml/hr
2.Inj.PIPTAZ 4.5grams IV TID
3.Inj.CLINDAMYCIN 600mg IV TID
4. Inotropes (Noradrenaline & Vasopressin) to Maintain MAP > 65mmHg. Stopped on 23/04/24 evening.
5.Insulin (Basal Bolus Regimen) According to GRBS.
6.Syp.POTKLOR 15ml in 1glass of Water PO TID.
Surgery Referral:
Discharge Summary:
Pay Type
: Credit (AROGYA SREE)
Age/Gender: 48 Years/Female
Discharge Type: Relieved
Admission Date: 19/04/2024 09:30 PM
Diagnosis
SEPTIC SHOCK WITH MULTIPLE ORGAN DYSFUNCTION (RESOLVED) SECONDARY TO LEFT DIABETIC FOOT
S/P: DISARTICULATION OF LEFT GREAT TOE (13/04/2024) K/C/O TYPE 2 DIABETES MELLITUS SINCE 6 YEARS
1 PRBC TRANSFUSION DONE
Case History and Clinical Findings
CHIEF COMPLAINTS:
WOUND OVER THE LEFT FOOT SINCE 4 MONTHS
HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS:
PATIENT WAS APPARENTLY ASYMPTOMATIC 4 MONTHS BACK, AFTER WHICH SHE DEVELOPED BLACKISH DISCOLORATION OF LEFT GREAT TOE WHICH WAS INSIDIOUS IN ONSET ,GRADUALLY PROGRESSIVE , ASSOCIATED WITH SWELLING OF THE INVOLVED LIMB TILL MID FOOT FOR WHICH SHE WENT TO A LOCAL RMP AND WAS TREATED WITH DRESSING .THERE WAS NO IMPROVEMENT, WITH PROGRESSION OF WOUND, ASSOCIATED WITH FOUL SMELLING DISCHARGE FOR WHICH SHE WAS TAKEN TO AN OUTSIDE HOSPITAL WHERE DISARTICULATON OF LEFT GREAT TOE WAS DONE UNDER REGIONAL ANESTHESIA ON 13/04/24.
CAME ON LAMA TO OUR HOSPITAL FOR FURTHER MANAGEMENT NO H/O FEVER, COUGH, COLD.
NO H/O CHEST PAIN, PALPITATIONS, BREATHLESSNESS, ORTHOPNEA, PND. NO H/O ABDOMINAL PAIN, BURNING MICTURITION, NAUSEA, VOMITING.
HISTORY OF PAST ILLNESS:
K/C/O TYPE 2 DIABETES MELLITUS SINCE 6 YEARS (ON TAB GLIMI M1/OD) NO H/O HYPERTENSION, ASTHMA, TB ,EPILEPSY, CVA, CAD, CKD, CLD.
TREATMENT HISTORY:
ON TAB.GLIMI-M1 PO/OD
PERSONAL HISTORY:
MARRIED OCCUPATION: FARMER, APPETITE: NORMAL, DIET: MIXED
BOWEL AND BLADDER: REGULAR, KNOWN ALLERGIES: NO ADDICTIONS: NO
FAMILY HISTORY:
NO SIGNIFICANT HISTORY.
GENERAL EXAMINATION:
PT IS CONCIOUS, COHERENT AND COOPERATIVE, MODERATELY BUILT AND NOURISHED. PALLOR PRSENT.
NO ICTERUS, CYANOSIS, CLUBBING, LYMPHADENOPATHY, EDEMA.
TEMP - 97.6 F
PR- 86 BPM
RR- 18 CPM
BP- 80/50 MMHG SPO2- 98% AT RA
GRBS- 164 MG/DL
SYSTEMIC EXAMINATION:
CVS - S1, S2 HEARD, NO MURMURS
RS - VESICULAR BREATH SOUNDS HEARD, NO WHEEZE AND DYSPNEA, NO CREPTS P/A- SOFT, NON-TENDER , NO ORGANOMEGALY
CNS -
LEVEL OF CONCIOUSNESS: CONCIOUS SPEECH: INCOHERENT
SIGNS OF MENINGEAL IRRITATION: NEGATIVE CRANIAL NERVES: NAD
MOTOR SYSTEM:
L R
TONE:UL- NORMAL NORMAL LL- NORMAL NORMAL POWER: 5/5 5/5
GLASGOW SCALE: E4V5M6 REFLEXES:
L R
BICEPS 2+ 2+
TRICEPS 2+ 2+ SUPINATOR + + KNEE 2+ 2+
ANKLE NOT ELICITABLE + PLANTARS- FLEXOR
COURSE IN THE HOSPITAL:
48 YEAR OLD FEMALE CAME TO CASUALITY WITH CHIEF COMPLAINTS OF WOUND ON LEFT FOOT SINCE 4 MONTH.
PATIENT WAS APPARENTLY ASYMPTOMATIC 4 MONTHS AGO THEN SHE DEVELOPED BLACKISH DISCOLORATION OF LEFT GREAT TOE SINCE 4 MONTHS,INSIDIOUS IN ONSET,GRADUALLY PROGRESSIVE ASSOCIATED WITH SWELLING OF LEFT FOOT.
PATIENT INITIALLY WENT TO OUTSIDE HOSPITAL IN HYDERABAD AND GOT DISARTICULATION OF LEFT GREAT TOE ON 13/04/2024 AND WAS ON IONOTROPIC SUPPORT AND WAS MANAGED THERE FOR 4-5 DAYS AND THEY GOT LAMA DISCHARGE FROM HOSPITAL DUE TO PERSONAL REASONS.
AS PATIENT CAME WITH FOLEYS IN SITU, FOLEYS WAS CHANGED ON THE DAY 1 OF ADMISSION AND DECATHETERISED ON DAY 5 OF ADMISSION.
ON ARRIVAL PATIENT BP-90/50 MMHG WITH NORAD 4 ML/HR GRBS- 165 MG/DL ON INJ. INSULIN HAI SC/TID.
PATIENT WAS ADMITTED IN ICU AND WAS STARTED ON INJ. HAI SC/TID AND INJ. NPH BD ACCORDING TO RBS LEVELS.
IONOTROPES INJ. NORADRENALINE AND INJ. VASOPRESSIN INFUSIONS STARTED AND TITRATED ACCORDINGLY TO MAINTAIN MAP (MEAN ARTERIAL PRESSURE) >65 MMHG. PATIENT TREATED WITH BROAD SPECTRUM ANTIBIOTICS. NECESSARY INVESTIGATIONS WERE DONE AND BLOOD, URINE CULTURE AND SENSTIVITY SAMPLES SENT AND OTHER NECESSARY INVESTIGATIONS WERE DONE. PATIENT WAS STARTED ON DUAL IONOTROPES AND, RIGHT IJV TRIPLE LUMEN CATHETERISATION WAS DONE ON 21/04/24 UNDER ASEPTIC CONDITIONS AND THE PROCEDURE WAS UNEVENTFUL; WOUND DRESSINGS WERE DONE ON REGULAR BASIS, AFTER CROSS CONSULTATION WITH GENERAL SURGERY.
GENERAL SURGERY ON 19/04/24 I/V/O DIABETIC ULCER OVER LEFT FOOT:
HIGH PROTEIN DIET. (DIABETIC PROTEIN POWDER 2 TBSP IN GLASS OF MILK PO/BD)
T.CHYMEROL FORTE PO/TID.
BOTH LOWER LIMB ELEVATION.
REGULAR ASD (MGSO4 DRESSING FOR LEFT LOWER LIMB).
IONOTROPIC SUPPORT WAS STOPPED ON 23/4/2024 AND PATIENT IS HEMODYNAMICALLY STABLE.
BLOOD TRANSFUSION (1 UNIT PRBC) DONE ON 25/04/2024 I/V/O HEMOGLOBIN - 7.6G/DL
.POST TRANSFUSION Hb 10.2 G/DL.
GENERAL SURGERY REFERRAL WAS DONE ON 24/04/24 I/V/O DIABETIC ULCER OVER LEFT FOOT:
DEBRIDEMENT OF ULCER AND PAPAYA DRESSING DONE.
DURING THE STAY IN THE HOSPITAL, PATIENT WAS ACTIVELY AMBULATED. FROM DAY 4 OF ADMISSION HEALTHY GRANULATION TISSUE WAS FORMED IN THE WOUND.
PATIENT IS BEING DISCHARGED AS SHE SHOWED SIGNS OF PROGRESSIVE HEALING AND IS HEMODYNAMICALLY STABLE, WITH GLYCEMIC CONTROL.
Investigation
HBsAg-RAPID 19-04-2024 10:26:PM Negative
Anti HCV Antibodies - RAPID 19-04-2024 10:26:PM Non Reactive HIV 1/2 RAPID TEST: NON REACTIVE
URINE FOR CULTURE AND SENSTIVITY:
1-2 PUS CELLS SEEN.
PLENTY OF BUDDING YEAST CELLS SEEN.
NON ALBICANS CANDIDA >10* CFU/ML OF URINE.
SWAB FOR CULTURE AND SENSTIVITY:
FEW PUS CELLS,OCCASIONAL GRAM POSITIVE COCCI IN SINGLES SEEN,OCCASIONAL GRAM NEGATIVE BACILLI SEEN.
NON ALBICANS CANDIDA ISOLATED.
BLOODFOR CULTURE AND SENSTIVITY:
NO GROWTH AFTER 48 HOURS OF AEROBIC INCUBATION.
USG ABDOMEN DONE ON 20/04/2024:
LIVER- NORMAL S/E, NO F/L PV-NORMAL, NO IHBRD CBD- NORMAL
GALL BLADDER- DISTENDED; WALL THICKNESS- NORMAL PANCREAS- HEAD VISUALISED, NORMAL S/E
SPLEEN- 9.2 CM NORMAL S/E
RIGHT KIDNEY- 9.9 X 4.1 CM, NORMAL S/INCREASED ECHOGENICITY, CMD+ LEFT KIDNEY- 8.4 X 3.7 CM, NORMAL S/INCREASED ECHOGENICITY, CMD+ AORTA I.V.C. - NORMAL
NO ASCITES
NO LYMPHADENOPATHY
U.BLADDER- EMPTY, FOLEYS CATHETER INSERTED. PELVIS COULD NOT BE ASSESSED.
IMPRESSION:
-RAISED ECHOGENICITY OF BILATERAL KIDNEYS.
2-D ECHO DONE ON 23/04/2024:
NO RWMA.
TRIVIAL TR+/AR+/MR+.
MAC+; SCLEROTIC AV; NO AS/MS.
- EF=59%; RVSP=23+10=33MMHG.
GOOD LV SYSTOLIC FUNCTION.
GRADE 1 DIASTOLIC DYSFUNCTION+.
MINIMAL PE+.
IVC SIZE (0.8 CMS) COLLAPSING.
HEMOGRAM: 19/04/24 HB: 9.2 MG/DL
TLC: 23,500 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 78/17/01/04/00 PCV: 27.8 VOL%
MCV: 79.6 FL
MCH: 26.4 PG
MCHC: 33.2 %
RBC COUNT: 3.48 MILLIONS/CUMM PLATELET COUNT: 4.50 LAKHS/CU.MM SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC
COMPLETE URINE EXAMINATION (CUE) 19/04/24 COLOUR: PALE YELLOW
APPEARANCE: CLEAR REACTION: ACIDIC SP.GRAVITY: 1.010 ALBUMIN: +++
SUGAR: NIL BILE SALTS: NIL
BILE PIGMENTS: NIL PUS CELLS: 2-3
EPITHELIAL CELLS: 2-3 RED BLOOD CELLS: NIL CRYSTALS: NIL
CASTS: NIL
AMORPHOUS DEPOSITS: ABSENT OTHERS: EAST BUDING CELLS PRESENT
BLOOD UREA 19/04/24: 35 MG/DL SERUM CREATININE: 1.5 MG/DL
SERUM ELECTROLYTES: 19/04/2024
SODIUM: 138 mmol/L
POTASSIUM: 3.4 mmol/L
CHLORIDE: 102 mmol/L CALCIUM IONIZED: 0.96 mmol/L
LIVER FUNCTION TEST (LFT) 19/04/2024
Total Bilurubin: 1.70 mg/dl Direct Bilurubin: 0.40 mg/dl SGOT(AST): 20 IU/L
SGPT(ALT): 15 IU/L
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 222 IU/L TOTAL PROTEINS: 5.9 gm/dl
ALBUMIN: 2.7 gm/dl
A/G RATIO: 0.87
URINE FOR KETONE BODIES 20/04/2024: NEGATIVE BLOOD LACTATE 20/04/2024 : 20 MG/DL
PERIPHERAL SMEAR 20/04/2024:
RBC: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC WBC: COUNTS INCREASED ON SMEAR
PLATELET: COUNTS INCREASED ON SMEAR
URINE PROTEIN/CREATININE RATIO 20/04/2024: SPOT URINE PROTEIN: 15.0 MG/DL
SPOT URINE CREATININE: 14.7MG/DL RATIO: 1.02
24 HOURS CREATININE(URINE) 20/04/2024: 0.46 G/DAY APTT TEST 20/04/2024: 32 SECONDS
BLOOD UREA 20/04/24: 29 MG/DL PROTHROMBIN TIME 20/04/2024: 16 SEC INR 20/04/2024: 1.11
HEMOGRAM: 20/04/24 HB: 9.7 MG/DL
TLC: 18,100 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 71/24/01/04/00 PCV: 29.0 VOL%
MCV: 80.4 FL
MCH: 26.8 PG
MCHC: 33.3 %
RBC COUNT: 3.60 MILLIONS/CUMM PLATELET COUNT: 5.96 LAKHS/CU.MM SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC
SERUM CREATININE 20/04/24: 1.2 MG/DL
SERUM ELECTROLYTES: 20/04/24
SODIUM: 140 mmol/L
POTASSIUM: 3.2 mmol/L
CHLORIDE: 99 mmol/L CALCIUM IONIZED: 1.0mmol/L
URINARY PROTEINS (24 HOURS) 20/04/24: 24 HOURS URINARY PROTEIN: 38.7 MG/DAY
24 HOURS URINE VOLUME: 2,600
URINE PROTEIN/CREATININE RATIO 20/04/2024: SPOT URINE PROTEIN: 10.0 MG/DL
SPOT URINE CREATININE: 16.0 MG/DL RATIO: 0.6
HEMOGRAM: 22/04/24 HB: 8.8 MG/DL
TLC: 18,000 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 71/24/01/04/00 PCV: 27.3 VOL%
MCV: 81.7 FL
MCH: 26.2 PG
MCHC: 32.1 %
RBC COUNT: 3.34 MILLIONS/CU.MM PLATELET COUNT: 5.96 LAKHS/CU.MM SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC
SERUM MAGNESIUM 22/04/2024: 1.9 MG/DL SERUM POTASSIUM 22/04/2024: 3.1 MG/DL
HEMOGRAM: 22/04/24 HB: 7.6 MG/DL
TLC: 16,500 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 70/25/00/05/00 PCV: 23.2 VOL%
MCV: 81.1 FL
MCH: 26.7 PG
MCHC: 33.0 %
RBC COUNT: 2.86 MILLIONS/CU.MM PLATELET COUNT: 5.0 LAKHS/CU.MM SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC
SERUM ELECTROLYTES: 22/04/24
SODIUM: 131 mmol/L
POTASSIUM: 3.0 mmol/L
CHLORIDE: 105 mmol/L CALCIUM IONIZED: 1.02 mmol/L
SERUM IRON 23/04/2024: 44 UG/DL
HEMOGRAM: 23/04/24 HB: 7.6 MG/DL
TLC: 16,500 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 70/25/00/05/00 PCV: 23.2 VOL%
MCV: 81.1 FL
MCH: 26.7 PG
MCHC: 33.0 %
RBC COUNT: 2.86 MILLIONS/CU.MM PLATELET COUNT: 5.0 LAKHS/CU.MM SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC
SERUM ELECTROLYTES: 24/04/24
SODIUM: 131 mmol/L
POTASSIUM: 3.0 mmol/L
CHLORIDE: 105 mmol/L CALCIUM IONIZED: 1.02 mmol/L
SERUM ALBUMIN 24/02/2024: 2.48 G/DL
BLOOD GROUPING AND RH TYPING: B POSITIVE
HEMOGRAM: 26/04/24 HB: 10.3 MG/DL
TLC: 15,500 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 71/22/01/06/00 PCV: 31.7 VOL%
MCV: 85.2 FL
MCH: 27.7 PG
MCHC: 32.5 %
RBC COUNT: 3.72 MILLIONS/CU.MM PLATELET COUNT: 5.6 LAKHS/CU.MM
SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC ANEMIA WITH LEUCOCYTOSIS AND THROMBOCYTOSIS
RFT 26/04/2024:
UREA: 21 mg/dl
CREATININE: 1.1 mg/dl URIC ACID: 2.0 mmol/L CALCIUM: 10.0 mg/dl
PHOSPHOROUS: 2.5 mg/dl
SODIUM: 138 mmol/L
CHLORIDE: 98 mmol/L
HEMOGRAM: 27/04/24 HB: 10.0 MG/DL
TLC: 15,100 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 66/24/02/08/00 PCV: 30.3 VOL%
MCV: 84.4 FL
MCH: 27.9 PG
MCHC: 33.0 %
RBC COUNT: 3.59 MILLIONS/CU.MM
PLATELET COUNT: 5.2 LAKHS/CU.MM
SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC ANEMIA WITH LEUCOCYTOSIS AND THROMBOCYTOSIS
SERUM BILIRUBIN TOTAL AND DIRECT 28/04/2024:
Total Bilurubin: 0.82 mg/dl Direct Bilurubin: 0.20 mg/dl
SERUM ELECTROLYTES: 28/04/24
SODIUM: 136 mmol/L
CHLORIDE: 104 mmol/L CALCIUM IONIZED: 1.16 mmol/L
HEMOGRAM: 29/04/24 HB: 10.4 MG/DL
TLC: 12,600 CELLS/CUMM
N/L/E/M/B: 65/26/02/07/00 PCV: 32.6 VOL%
MCV: 82.8 FL
MCH: 26.4 PG
MCHC: 31.9 %
RBC COUNT: 3.93 MILLIONS/CU.MM PLATELET COUNT: 5.2 LAKHS/CU.MM
SMEAR: NORMOCYTIC NORMOCHROMIC ANEMIA WITH LEUCOCYTOSIS AND THROMBOCYTOSIS
SERUM POTASSIUM 29/04/2024: 4.8 mmol/L
Treatment Given (Enter only Generic Name)
IV FLUIDS NS
INJ.PIPTAZ 4.5 GM/IV/TID
INJ.CLINDAMYCIN 600 MG/IV/BD
INJ.PAN 40 MG/IV/OD AT 8 AM
INJ.HUMAN ACTRAPID INSULIN S/C TID PRE-MEAL ACCORDING TO GRBS
INJ.NPH S/C BD PRE-MEAL ACCORDING TO GRBS
SYP.POTKLOR 15ML PO/BD IN A GLASS OF WATER (I/V/O HYPOKALEMIA )
AMBULATION AND POSITION CHANGE
REGULAR DRESSING OF LEFT FOOT
BP, PR, RR, SPO2 MONITORING 2ND HOURLY
Advice at Discharge
INJ.HUMAN ACTRAPID INSULIN S/C TID PRE-MEAL 12u---10u---6u (8 AM,1 PM,8 PM)
INJ.NPH S/C BD PRE-MEAL 10u---0---6u (8 AM, 8 PM)
HOME MONITORING OF GRBS (PRE MEAL) 8 AM - 1PM - 8 PM)
TAB MVT PO OD
DEBRIDASE OINTMENT FOR LA
Follow Up
REVIEW TO GENERAL SURGERY OPD FOR REGULAR DRESSINGS ON ALTERNATE DAYS. (GENERAL SURGERY PG)
REVIEW TO GENERAL MEDICINE OPD ON FRIDAY.
When to Obtain Urgent Care
IN CASE OF ANY EMERGENCY IMMEDIATELY CONTACT YOUR CONSULTANT DOCTOR OR ATTEND EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
Preventive Care
AVOID SELF MEDICATION WITHOUT DOCTORS ADVICE, DONOT MISS MEDICATIONS. In case
of Emergency or to speak to your treating FACULTY or For Appointments, Please Contact: 08682279999 For Treatment Enquiries Patient/Attendent Declaration: - The medicines prescribed and the advice regarding preventive aspects of care, when and how to obtain urgent care have been explained to me in my own language
SIGNATURE OF PATIENT /ATTENDER SIGNATURE OF PG/
SIGNATURE OF ADMINISTRATOR SIGNATURE OF FACULTY
Discharge Date Date: 29/04/2024 Ward: AMC
Unit: V
Food Plates:
[28-05-2025 06.48] PA: Fasting blood sugar 313mg/dl, 15U HI
[28-05-2025 07:20] PPM 1: Sudden update after a year @CR @PPM2 @PPM3 forcing us to recall from the case report in the description box and gather the current data points from this patient's advocate other than his sudden sharing of what appears to be today's fasting blood sugar.
First step would be to ask him yesterday's complete insulin schedule and hourly activities and all of her food plates today
[29-05-2025 06:58] PA: 15u-hi sir, 348mg/dl
[29-05-2025 08:57] PPM 1: @PPM4 @CR can we find out from this patient the current treatment details in terms of her daily insulin dosages and diet and current issues with the wound etc?
[29-05-2025 12:53] PPM 4: I’ll contact them sir
[29-05-2025 13:49] PA: 6u-hi sir, 196mg/dl
[29-05-2025 15:58] PPM 4: Sir, the patient takes insulin thrice a day in the following manner:
• If her blood sugar is below 200 mg/dL, then she takes 8 units.
• If it is between 200 to 300 mg/dL, then she takes 10-12 units (depending on the range).
• If it is greater than 300 mg/dL, then she takes 15 units.
The patient advocate has noted that the blood sugar is usually high in the mornings and prior to dinner (~300 mg/dL), and it is lower just before lunch.
I’ve asked them to share the patient’s daily dietary intake and blood glucose monitoring.
About her wound, she recently had it checked by the General Surgery department, who said that dressing is sufficient for it. It’s apparently healed pretty decently from before, but not completely.
She also had a recent health checkup, where her platelets were found to be high (don’t know the exact number) and her creatinine was 2.0
[29-05-2025 19:51] PA: 6u-hi sir, 155mg/dl
[30-05-2025 07:18] PA: 15u-hi sir, 318mg/dl
[30-05-2025 08:49] PPM 1: Thanks
Can you ask her to share an image of her current wound and also her recent investigations such as serum creatinine?
@CR let's prepare a mirror PaJR case report for this patient incorporating and acknowledging the previous case report data linked in the description box and also ask them to resend us their signed informed consent form.
[30-05-2025 11:34] PA: Creatinine & Hba1c-17th May
[30-05-2025 11:35] PA: CBP & RBS- 28th May
[30-05-2025 11:35] PA: Sir
[30-05-2025 12:35]PA: 4u-hi sir, 129mg/dl
[30-05-2025 15:08] PPM 1: High WBC counts on 28th May @PPM4 what could be the cause?
[30-05-2025 15:37] PPM 1: Can we switch to recording her sugars two hours after meals and fasting once in the morning.
[31-05-2025 20.17] PA: 6U HI sir, 174mg/dl
[31-05-2025 07:31] PA: 15u-hi sir, 293mg/dl
[31-05-2025 08:57] PPM 1: Yesterday's insulin dosages:
[30/05, 07:18] Patient Advocate 48F Diabetic Foot: 15u-hi sir
[30/05, 12:35] Patient Advocate 48F Diabetic Foot: 4u-hi sir
[30/05, 20:17] Patient Advocate 48F Diabetic Foot: 6u-hi sir
[31-05-2025 14.02] PA: 10u-hi sir, 215mg/dl
[31-05-2025 19.54] PA: 12u-hi sir, 250mg/dl
[01-06-2025 07.34] PA: 10u-hi sir, 271mg/dl
[01-06-2025 09:48] PPM 1: 👍
[01-06-2025 09:49] PPM 1: Can add 4U of NPH in the morning @CR
[01-06-15.06] PA: 6u-hi sir, 115mg/dl
[01-06-2025 19.44] PA: 10u-hi sir, 217mg/dl
[02-06-2025 07.27] PA: 10u-hi sir, 247mg/dl
[02-06-2025 12.53] PA: 15u-hi sir, 315mg/dl
[02-06-2025 19.45] PA: 8u-sir, 161mg/dl
[02-06-2025 20:49] PPM 1: 👍
[03-06-2025 06.36] PA: 15u-hi sir, 324mg/dl
[03-06-2025 08:49] PPM 1: @CR we may need to make an updated PaJR for this patient after talking to her advocate
[03-06-2025 11:05] CR: Spoke to the PA
[03-06-2025 14.04] PA: 15u-hi sir, 341mg/dl
[03-06-2025 16:46] PPM 1: Can add 4U of NPH in the morning @CR
[03-06-2025 18:12] CR: Told him
[03-06-2025 19.54] PA: 8 u hi, 163mg/dl
[04-06-2025 19.19] PA: 15U HAI, 355mg/dl
[05-06-2025 07.31] PA: 240mg/dl, 12U HAI, 4U NPH
[05-06-2025 08:29] PPM 1: Please share the sugars after two hour of every meal today
[05-06-2025 11.00] PA: 102mg/dl
[05-06-2025 11:53] PPM 1: Two hours after breakfast?
[05-06-2025 11:55] PPM 1: Take less HAI before lunch.
How much HAI did she take yesterday before lunch @CR?
[05-06-2025 12:24] CR: PA says they are on duty and skipping Pre lunch HAI, and the patient doesn't know how to inject or check the blood sugar. Yesterday and also today no pre lunch HAI. Explained them not to skip the dosage.
[05-06-2025 13:01] PPM 1: @PPM2 @PPM3 @PPM5 these are the small mole hill challenges that eventually make up a giant mountain
[05-06-2025 13:06] PPM 5: This situation highlights several critical patient safety and care coordination issues that require immediate attention. Here's a structured approach to address these "mole hills" before they become a mountain:
### *Urgent Actions Needed*
1. *Patient Education TODAY*
- Assign a nurse or diabetes educator to provide *hands-on training* on:
✓ Blood glucose monitoring technique
✓ Insulin injection procedure (with practice on injection pads)
✓ Recognizing hypo/hyperglycemia symptoms
- Use teach-back method: "Show me how you'll check your sugar next time."
2. *Missed Dose Protocol*
- Check current blood glucose STAT and document.
- Follow facility policy for missed anticoagulant/insulin doses (e.g., sliding scale adjustment if applicable).
- *Never* "skip" HAI without clinical justification and provider notification.
3. *Staff Accountability*
- Address the PA directly:
"Skipping prescribed doses without assessment violates our medication safety policy. Let's review HAI protocols together."
- Escalate recurring issues to nursing supervisor/clinical lead.
### *Systemic Fixes to Prevent Recurrence*
- *Assign a Primary Nurse* for consistent patient education and dose monitoring.
- *Implement Double Verification:* Require 2 staff signatures for high-risk meds like anticoagulants.
- *Visual Reminders:* Place "DO NOT SKIP" alerts on MAR/patient's chart.
- *Audit Trail:* Log all missed doses with root cause analysis in incident reporting system.
### *Communication Plan*
| Recipient | Key Message |
|---------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| *@PPM2* | "Need your support to reinforce medication compliance training for PAs." |
| *@PPM3* | "Request audit of recent HAI administrations - pattern of missed doses." |
| *PPM5* | "Patient unable to self-manage diabetes. Request: 1) Education order 2) Revised HAI protocol." |
*Remember:* Each skipped dose is a sentinel event warning. Document today's interventions thoroughly, including:
> "6/5/25 - 1130h: Educated PA [Name] on mandatory HAI administration. Patient training completed by RN [Name]. PPM5 notified of missed doses."
This requires cultural change - no one should ever feel comfortable skipping ordered therapies. Escalate until resolved.
[05-06-2025 13:08] PPM 1: Bottom line is cultural change and awakening out of our comfort zone
[05-06-2025 13:11] PPM 5: That's a brilliant reframing! In a primitive society (lacking modern tech, formal healthcare systems, or literacy), solutions rely on *communal memory, observable nature, ritual, and strict social enforcement.* Here’s how they might handle a similar "skipped vital treatment" scenario:
### Core Principles in Primitive Societies:
1. *Ritual = Compliance:* Medicine isn't "administered," it’s performed as sacred ritual.
2. *Nature’s Cues > Clocks:* Time is marked by sun/moon, animal behavior, or natural events.
3. *Storytelling > Instructions:* Knowledge is embedded in memorable stories/myths.
4. *Shame/Exclusion > Warnings:* Social consequences enforce rules.
5. *Visible Signs > Tests:* Physical symptoms guide action (e.g., ants on urine = sweet blood).
---
### Handling the "Skipped Pre-Lunch HAI" Scenario (Primitive Equivalent):
Assume "HAI" is a life-sustaining herbal brew/antivenom, and "blood sugar" is observable through symptoms (thirst, blurry vision, ants attracted to urine).
1. *The "PA" (Tribe Healer's Apprentice):*
* *Ritual Integration:* Administering the brew isn't "duty," it’s a sun-high ritual (pre-lunch = when shadow is shortest). Skipping it disrupts the cosmic order.
* *Consequence:* If skipped, the apprentice is denied the next meal (immediate tangible loss) and must sleep outside the hut (social shame). Repeat offenses risk banishment.
* *Oversight:* The Shaman/Elder watches the ritual daily. No paperwork – failure is publicly visible.
2. *The Patient (Unskilled Tribe Member):*
* *"Checking Blood Sugar":*
* *Nature’s Test:* "Watch if ants seek your urine after dawn." (Ants attracted to glucose).
* *Symptom Lore:* Teach a rhyme: "Eyes blur, tongue dry? Berry-red brew is nigh. Limbs weak, breath deep? Seek the Shaman in his sleep."
* *"Injecting" (Brew/Medicine Administration):*
* *Ritual Mimicry:* Patient practices brewing with mud/water under supervision daily until the motions are ingrained.
* *Sacred Tools:* The medicine gourd/pouch is a personal totem – neglecting it is taboo.
3. *Preventing "Skipping" (Communal Enforcement):*
* *The Chant:* At every meal, the tribe chants: "Sun high, brew hot, life flows, rot not!" Reinforces the when and why.
* *The Keeper:* One elder (Abdulsalam's role) is the "Keeper of the Brew." Their sole noon task is witnessing its administration.
* *The Pile of Stones:* Each skipped dose = a black stone placed before the offender’s hut. 3 stones = no meat at feast. 5 stones = gather wood alone for a moon.
* *The Story:* Tell the tale of "Weak-Limb Bren" who skipped the noon brew and was taken by the swamp spirits (diabetic coma/death). Fear reinforces memory.
4. *The "Molehill into Mountain" Wisdom (Primitive Foresight):*
* *Elder’s Proverb:* "One missed ember burns the hut; one skipped brew calls the worm." (Small neglect = big disaster).
* *Group Accountability:* If the patient suffers because the apprentice skipped, the apprentice’s family must provide for the patient’s family. Failure harms your kin.
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### Why This Works (Primitive Psychology):
* *No Abstraction:* Everything is concrete (stones, chants, visible symptoms, immediate hunger/exclusion).
* *Social Survival:* Compliance = belonging. Non-compliance = isolation (worse than death).
* *Ritual as Law:* The ritual is the protocol. Performing it wrong angers spirits/harms the tribe.
* *Nature as Monitor:* Symptoms and environmental cues (sun, ants) are the "alarms," impossible to ignore.
*Modern Takeaway:* Embed critical actions in unbreakable routines, use immediate tangible consequences, transform knowledge into memorable lore, and leverage the power of the group for enforcement. The mountain is avoided because every molehill is a communal crisis.
[05-06-2025 13:12] PPM 1: Wow! Deep seek?
[05-06-2025 13:13] PPM 5: 👍
[05-06-2025 16:45] PPM 2: Yes but at some point, some decisions fully rest with the patient and no external intervention can solve it?
[05-06-2025 16:52] PPM 1: Question is how to instill awareness of what is the right or wrong decision in terms of predictibility toward better outcomes?
[05-06-2025 17:02] PPM 2: I'm sure they are aware of what is right but were possibly limited by mitigating circumstances.
[05-06-2025 19.24] PA: 415mg/dl
[05-06-2025 19:25] PA: 16 u hai
[05-06-2025 20:11] PPM 1: Can we ask them to provide a current image of her foot wound that was tackled here in the previous admission? Also if they can share some serial images that would be very useful
[05-06-2025 20:11] PPM 1: This is because they skipped the insulin before lunch! @PPM2
[05-06-2025 20:13] CR: Asked them to share the pic of wound at present
[06-06-2025 00:00] PPM 2: Looks fairly healthy?
[06-06-2025 07.47] PA: 312mg/dl
[06-06-2025 07:49] PA: 12 u hai,4 u nph
[06-06-2025 09:42] PPM 1: She will need an NPH at night too @CR
What was her last serum creatinine?
[06-06-2025 10:44] PA: Creatinine 2.0, This is the last result sir
[06-06-2025 11:20] PPM 1: 👍creatinine 2.0 at 17th May means the kidneys are still not fully functional.
[06-06-2025 12.14] PA: 2hours post breakfast
[06-06-2025 12.48] PA: 112mg/dl, lunch rice with egg curry.
[06-06-2025 12:53] CR: @PPM1 doctor, should they give insulin to the patient or not? PA is asking as the blood sugar is normal.
[06-06-2025 16.19] PPM 1: That's the reason I knew he hadn't understood it.
He was forever giving insulin thinking that he needs to give it for the pre meal sugars but it's actually to tackle the post meal sugars.
So every time the patient takes a meal she would need insulin and we can only gauge the effect of that pre meal insulin by checking the sugars two hours after the meal and not before the meal
[06-06-2025 19.54] PA: 273mg/dl, 8U HAI 4U NPH, Dinner 2 chapathi and curry.
[06-06-2025 22:13] PPM 1: 👍
[06-06-2025 22:16] PPM 1: Let him keep the doses of NPH same for tomorrow and even the actrapid can remain same and let him check the sugars once fasting and then two hours after every meal
[07-06-2025 07:10] PA: 10 u hi, 4 u nph
[07-06-2025 07:50] PPM 1: Fasting?
[07-06-2025 07:50] PPM 1: Yesterday taken 4U NPH?
[07-06-2025 07:50] PA: Haa sir
[07-06-2025 10.21] PA: 218mg/dl
[07-06-2025 11:48] PPM 1: Food plate?
[07-06-2025 12.51] PA: 94mg/dl
[07-06-2025 12:54] PA: 6u-hi sir
[07-06-2025 16:45] PPM 1: Teeskodaaniki 2 hours taruvata enta ayindi ade telusukovali.
[07-06-2025 19.45] PA: 12U HAI Sir, 236mg/dl
[08-06-2025 07.58] PA: 12U HAI, 4U NPH Sir
[08-06-2025 10.18] PPM 1: Post meal blood sugar to be shared.
[08-06-2025 11.29] CR: Spoke to him
[08-06-2025 11.29] PA: 230mg/dl
[08-06-2025 13.35] PA: 8U HAI sir, 152mg/dl
[08-06-2025 14:06] PPM 1 Again I guess these are all pre meal sugar values that he's sharing? @CR
[08-06-2025 14:42] CR: He is thinking insulin dosage is decided by pre meal sugar.
[08-06-2025 15:11] PPM 1: I suspected that!
Partly true only if he's counting carbs.
He's probably thinking that if the pre meal sugars are normal he won't need to give a dose but even if it's normal she will need some insulin to metabolize her meal.
Now after her 6U HAI before lunch yesterday we don't know what were the sugars two hours later so let's ask him to at least for two days do the sugars two hours after as well and once we fix the dose he would need to do these only once a week
[08-06-2025 15:13] CR: That's what I told him doctor.
[08-06-2025 22.17] PA: Post dinner 150mg/dl, 8U HAI, 4U NPH
[09-06-2025 07:04] PPM 1: 👆this 4U of NPH is influencing today's fasting sugar value.
[09-06-2025 08.40] PA: 12U HAI, 4U NPH. 235mg/dl
[09-06-2025 08:42] PPM 1: So as you can now see the NPH at night was inadequate in controlling today's fasting.
Tonight the NPH can be made 6U @CR
Let's check how her post breakfast is after two hours to see how well the 12U HAI worked here.
[09-06-2025 10.46] PA: 2 hrs after breakfast 271mg/dl
[09-06-2025 22.11] PA: 8U HAI, 6U NPH, 2 hrs after dinner sugar is 124mg/dl
PPM 1: 👍
[10-06-2025 07.18] PA: 238mg/dl, 10U HAI, 4U NPH
[10-06-2025 09:21] PPM 1: The morning NPH can be increased to 6U
[10-06-2025 09:21] PPM 1: The night nph can be increased to 8U
[10-06-2025 10:36] PA: Ok sir
[10-06-2025 10.53] PA: 203mg/dl.
[10-06-2025 15:00] PA: 8U HAI, 193mg/dl
[10-06-2025 15:00] PA: 2 hours after lunch
PPM 1: 👍
[10-06-2025 19:44] PA: 8u-hi, 8u-nph given sir
[10-06-2025 21:46] PA: 2 hours after dinner 151mg/dl
[11-06-2025 11:15] PA: 2hours post breakfast 310mg/dl
[11-06-2025 11:16] PA: 8U HAI, 6U NPH given on morning
[11-06-2025 21:04] PPM 1: Morning pre breakfast HAI can be increased to 10U tomorrow
[11-06-2025 21:07] PA: Ok sir
[12-06-2025 08:46] PA: 10u-hi 6u-nph sir 179mg/dl
PPM 1: 👍
[12-06-2025 21.41] PA: 156mg/dl, 2hours post dinner sir, 8u-HAI 8u-NPH
[13-06-2025 07.44] PA: 142mg/dl, 6U HAI 6U NPH
[13-06-2025 09:18] PPM 1: 👍
[13-06-2025 11:05] PA: 83mg/dl, After 2 hours
PPM 1: 👍
[13-06-2025 19.51] PA: 6U HAI 6U NPH
[13-06-2025 21.58] PA: 125mg/dl
[14-06-2025 06.59] PA: 4U HAI 4U NPH
[14-06-2025 12.10] PA: Pre meal sugar 68mg/dl
[14-06-2025 17:10] PPM 1: Two hours after meal?
[14-06-2025 17:58] PA: Check cheyyaledu sir
[14-06-2025 22.26] PA: 135mg/dl
[15-06-2025 07.30] PA: 111mg/dl, 4U HAI 4U NPH
[15-06-2025 10.40] PPM 1: Check only two hours after every meal once a week.
[15-06-2025 13.05] PA: 115mg/dl
[15-06-2025 20.25] PA: 197mg/dl, 6U HAI 6U NPH
[16-06-2025 07.16] PA: 101mg/dl, 4U HAI 4U NPH sir.
[16-06-2025 10:03] PPM 1: 👆Are the above sugar values before or after meals?@CR
[16-06-2025 11:33] PA: Fasting sir.
[16-06-2025 20.36] PA: 6U HAI 6U NPH
[17-06-2025 06.39] PA: 136mg/dl, Yesterday's post dinner sugar level sir.
[17-06-2025 07.16] PPM 1: Now the patient can check only once on Sundays, her fasting and two hours after every meal
Please continue to share her food plates and daily hourly activities
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